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John July 10th 05 09:08 PM

Monday services
 
Firstly, can I say what a wonderful job all the police, ambulance, fire
services, underground and bus staff have done to cope with this event. I
know from speaking to a policemen closely involved that it was a great
shock and will take months for some to get over.

Unfortunately I (and others) have to go to work on Monday (Friday wasn't
too bad because so many stayed at home). Does anyone know what is
planned to be different to Monday or when we are likely to see a change?

--
John Alexander,

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Matt Wheeler July 10th 05 09:27 PM

Monday services
 

"John" wrote in message
...
Firstly, can I say what a wonderful job all the police, ambulance,
fire
services, underground and bus staff have done to cope with this
event. I
know from speaking to a policemen closely involved that it was a
great
shock and will take months for some to get over.

Unfortunately I (and others) have to go to work on Monday (Friday
wasn't
too bad because so many stayed at home). Does anyone know what is
planned to be different to Monday or when we are likely to see a
change?



For lack of any other information, I'd expect the underground lines to
be the same as this weekend, ie no Circle, H&C only between Paddington
and Hammersmith, and the same Piccadilly service levels.

TFL have said they hope to get the circle/H&C running again in the
next few days, but it will be a few weeks (at least) for the Pic.

One thing I was wondering, however.
As part of the "emergency" timetable, the service to Olympia has been
axed. Surely they could run an Olympia to Tower Hill (or further,
whitechapel ?) service using some of the "spare" C-stock to cover for
the missing Circle service.



asdf July 10th 05 09:27 PM

Monday services
 
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:08:07 +0100, John wrote:

Firstly, can I say what a wonderful job all the police, ambulance, fire
services, underground and bus staff have done to cope with this event. I
know from speaking to a policemen closely involved that it was a great
shock and will take months for some to get over.

Unfortunately I (and others) have to go to work on Monday (Friday wasn't
too bad because so many stayed at home). Does anyone know what is
planned to be different to Monday or when we are likely to see a change?


Circle Line: No service.

Hammersmith & City Line: No service between Paddington and Barking

Metropolitan Line: No service between Moorgate and Aldgate

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

District Line :No service between High Street Kensington and Edgware
Road.

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only

Colin Rosenstiel July 10th 05 10:23 PM

Monday services
 
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge


Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only


When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel July 10th 05 10:23 PM

Monday services
 
In article ,
(Matt Wheeler) wrote:

One thing I was wondering, however.
As part of the "emergency" timetable, the service to Olympia has been
axed. Surely they could run an Olympia to Tower Hill (or further,
whitechapel ?) service using some of the "spare" C-stock to cover for
the missing Circle service.


Are you sure the Olympia service is still not running? It's not been
mentioned more recently. I guessed the problem was shortage of terminating
platforms at High St but can't they use either of the through platforms to
reverse trains as well as the two bay platforms?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Peter Smyth July 10th 05 10:47 PM

Monday services
 

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge


Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only


When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?


Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines would be
getting in the way of the rescue workers on the Piccadilly platforms.

Peter Smyth



David Splett July 10th 05 11:29 PM

Monday services
 
"Matt Wheeler" wrote in message
...
One thing I was wondering, however.
As part of the "emergency" timetable, the service to Olympia has been
axed. Surely they could run an Olympia to Tower Hill (or further,
whitechapel ?) service using some of the "spare" C-stock to cover for the
missing Circle service.


There is a big problem with this. C stock is maintained at Hammersmith
depot, and to get anywhere else on the network has to run via Edgware Road.
Neasden has stabled C stocks in the past, but is otherwise cut off by the
Aldgate blockage, meaning Ealing Common is the only realistic option.
Notwithstanding the fact that this depot is geared towards maintaining D
stock, I would imagine there is little space/capacity to work on more
trains.

Having said all this I noticed that C stocks were out on the Wimbledon-HSK
trains yesterday. I've no idea what the situation is with these trains, but
I reckon it's pretty certain they're not running to/from Hammersmith depot.



Andrew July 10th 05 11:31 PM

Monday services
 

One thing I was wondering, however.
As part of the "emergency" timetable, the service to Olympia has been
axed. Surely they could run an Olympia to Tower Hill (or further,
whitechapel ?) service using some of the "spare" C-stock to cover for the
missing Circle service.


I might be wrong but I think C stock are normally stabled at Hammersmith H&C
depot. Getting them to the Olympia / Earls Court area would mean going via
Edgware Road, which is obviously not possible.

Mind you, presumably there must be some C stock units that were in service
at the time of the explosions and perhaps are temporarily stabled elsewhere
?

Andrew



Colin Rosenstiel July 10th 05 11:32 PM

Monday services
 
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge


Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only


When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?


Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines would be
getting in the way of the rescue workers on the Piccadilly platforms.


I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having to take
place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Richard J. July 10th 05 11:57 PM

Monday services
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos
Grove and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line
trains only

When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What
reason is there not to do so now?


Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines
would be getting in the way of the rescue workers on the
Piccadilly platforms.


I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having
to take place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.


Then perhaps the reports are wrong. Many of them are still
contradictory, so it wouldn't surprise me. As for King's Cross St
Pancras, don't all the main escalators lead to the same tube ticket
hall? It seems to me perfectly reasonable that the people examining and
removing body parts from the tunnel should be able to bring them up into
an area to which the public don't have access. Possibly the Victoria
could be accessed via the Thameslink station, but I'm not sure what the
crowd control implications would be.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)



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