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John July 14th 05 10:33 PM

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I hear that the H&C could be 2 months before it is back in order (worst
case because they don't know the tunnel status until the police vacate
site and Piccadily is anything up to 8 months if the tunnel needs a
rebuild - comments?
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Peter Smyth July 14th 05 10:43 PM

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"John" wrote in message
...
I hear that the H&C could be 2 months before it is back in order (worst
case because they don't know the tunnel status until the police vacate
site and Piccadily is anything up to 8 months if the tunnel needs a
rebuild - comments?
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Well the TfL press release at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=428
says they expect to have a full service running on the Circle/H&C five days
after the police have finished their investigations. I don't think they
would say that unless they were confident there had been no major structural
damage.

Peter Smyth



David Boothroyd July 14th 05 11:02 PM

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In article ,
"Peter Smyth" wrote:

Well the TfL press release at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...ases-content.a
sp?prID=428
says they expect to have a full service running on the Circle/H&C five days
after the police have finished their investigations. I don't think they
would say that unless they were confident there had been no major structural
damage.


If the reports today (that the explosive was mostly Acetone Peroxide) are
correct, then it would be unlikely given the damage to the train that
any serious damage was done to the tunnel.

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Colin Rosenstiel July 15th 05 12:07 AM

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In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Smyth" wrote:

Well the TfL press release at

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=428
says they expect to have a full service running on the Circle/H&C
five days after the police have finished their investigations. I
don't think they would say that unless they were confident there had
been no major structural damage.


If the reports today (that the explosive was mostly Acetone Peroxide)
are correct, then it would be unlikely given the damage to the train
that any serious damage was done to the tunnel.


Since the rest of us aren't the explosive experts that you are, David,
perhaps you can explain that remark?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Nicola Redwood July 15th 05 01:25 AM

Hearsay
 

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Smyth" wrote:

Well the TfL press release at

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=428
says they expect to have a full service running on the Circle/H&C
five days after the police have finished their investigations. I
don't think they would say that unless they were confident there had
been no major structural damage.


If the reports today (that the explosive was mostly Acetone Peroxide)
are correct, then it would be unlikely given the damage to the train
that any serious damage was done to the tunnel.


Since the rest of us aren't the explosive experts that you are, David,
perhaps you can explain that remark?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide



Roland Perry July 15th 05 06:44 AM

Hearsay
 
In message , at
01:25:23 on Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Nicola Redwood
remarked:
If the reports today (that the explosive was mostly Acetone Peroxide)
are correct, then it would be unlikely given the damage to the train
that any serious damage was done to the tunnel.


Since the rest of us aren't the explosive experts that you are, David,
perhaps you can explain that remark?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide


That explains the chemistry, but says little about what type of damage
it might cause, and why. There were some early reports that the type of
explosive could be guessed from the way that victims' clothes were
"blown off" and other contemporary descriptions of the sound and light
accompanying the blasts. Perhaps these are what were being referred to?
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] July 15th 05 08:07 AM

Hearsay
 
A bit worrying that I have both main ingredients, in very small
quantities, at home. Acetone is a useful solvent for fibre glass resin
and hydrogen peroxide is an antisceptic. Looks as though I might be
using alternatives from now on.

Kevin


Nick Cooper July 15th 05 09:14 AM

Hearsay
 
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:07 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Smyth" wrote:

Well the TfL press release at

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=428
says they expect to have a full service running on the Circle/H&C
five days after the police have finished their investigations. I
don't think they would say that unless they were confident there had
been no major structural damage.


If the reports today (that the explosive was mostly Acetone Peroxide)
are correct, then it would be unlikely given the damage to the train
that any serious damage was done to the tunnel.


Since the rest of us aren't the explosive experts that you are, David,
perhaps you can explain that remark?


I suspect he means what I've already thought, i.e. that the damage to
the heavier parts of the subsurface trains is fairly limited, menaing
that the blast furthur out would have been sufficient to significantly
damage the tunnel.
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Boltar July 15th 05 09:22 AM

Hearsay
 
A bit worrying that I have both main ingredients, in very small
quantities, at home. Acetone is a useful solvent for fibre glass resin
and hydrogen peroxide is an antisceptic. Looks as though I might be
using alternatives from now on.


Lots of things are flammable and explosive if converted to a fine
spray. Petrol can be used as an explosive and so can flour! Its not
worth worrying about.

B2003


Roland Perry July 15th 05 09:58 AM

Hearsay
 
In message .com, at
02:22:32 on Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Boltar remarked:
A bit worrying that I have both main ingredients, in very small
quantities, at home. Acetone is a useful solvent for fibre glass resin
and hydrogen peroxide is an antisceptic. Looks as though I might be
using alternatives from now on.


Lots of things are flammable and explosive if converted to a fine
spray. Petrol can be used as an explosive and so can flour! Its not
worth worrying about.


I can see you are (rightly) sceptical. But the OP has some antisceptic,
it seems.
--
Roland Perry


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