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Automatic tubes?
Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically?
Further is the system the same as was used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line? -- Clive |
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Clive wrote: Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically? Central and Victoria. And DLR. Further is the system the same as was used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line? I don't know what was used on the Woodford Loop, but the two systems in use today are different. -- Mike Bristow - really a very good driver |
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In message , Mike Bristow
writes In article , Clive wrote: Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically? Central and Victoria. And DLR. Further is the system the same as was used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line? I don't know what was used on the Woodford Loop, but the two systems in use today are different. Can you tell me what the difference is? -- Clive |
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Automatic tubes?
14 codes on the Central as opposed to four on the Victoria for a start.
The track circuits which carry the codes are also of a different type, but the principles are fairly similar. |
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"Mike Bristow" wrote in message
... In article , Clive wrote: Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically? Central and Victoria. And DLR. Further is the system the same as was used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line? I don't know what was used on the Woodford Loop, but the two systems in use today are different. Woodford to Hainault was used as a prototype for the Victoria Line, and so was presumably identical or similar to the system still in use on the Victoria. I think it was removed years or even decades before the Central Line ATO was introduced. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Clive wrote:
Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically? Central and Victoria, using different systems. Further is the system the same as was used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line? The system used on the Central is different to that used on the Woodford loop and Victoria line. Some info here http://www.davros.org/rail/signallin...s/central.html |
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Brimstone wrote:
Clive wrote: Anyone know which of the tube lines are now driven automatically? Central and Victoria, using different systems. Both lines, of course, rely on a driver in the cab to control the on-board systems, so they are not completely automatic. In Paris, Line 14 of the Métro has no staff on trains or, as far as I could see, on platforms. Even at the terminus, if you fail to alight, they take you into the reversing siding for a few minutes before starting the return journey. When I was last in Paris in April, there were reports in the local press that Line 1 would be converted to automatic (crewless) operation, which will involve the installation of platform-edge doors at all stations. One of the stated reasons for the conversion was to reduce the number of closures due to strikes. Bob Crow, look out! -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Both lines, of course, rely on a driver in the cab to control the
on-board systems, so they are not completely automatic. In Paris, Line 14 of the Métro has no staff on trains or, as far as I could see, on platforms. Even at the terminus, if you fail to alight, they take you into the reversing siding for a few minutes before starting the return journey. That sounds to me very unsafe, in the event of an emergency like what we had here recently, evecuation would have been much slower, plus some stations need to have different 'dwell times.' |
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Joe wrote:
Both lines, of course, rely on a driver in the cab to control the on-board systems, so they are not completely automatic. In Paris, Line 14 of the Métro has no staff on trains or, as far as I could see, on platforms. Even at the terminus, if you fail to alight, they take you into the reversing siding for a few minutes before starting the return journey. That sounds to me very unsafe, in the event of an emergency like what we had here recently, evecuation would have been much slower, Not necessarily. In the case of the Piccadilly Line bombing, people in the rear five cars had nobody to help them until rescuers arrived along the tunnel from King's Cross. The tunnels in Paris are mostly double track with no fourth rail, which makes evacuation easier. plus some stations need to have different 'dwell times.' Maybe, but I can think of various ways of achieving that automatically. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:35:10 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: Maybe, but I can think of various ways of achieving that automatically. Certainly if (as is likely outside the UK) people are disciplined and refrain from blocking sensors to hold doors open. Something similar is used on bendy buses in Hamburg. The rear door is on a timer with a sensor in the step. If someone is standing on the step (thus, it is assumed, trying to board), the door remains open. After the step is cleared and the time has passed, it closes and the driver can depart. IMX, it has only been when the bus has been crammed full and people have accidentally stood on the step that this has caused delays. I never experienced anyone doing it deliberately. In the UK, I expect the scallies would soon realise... Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK When replying please use neil at the above domain 'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read. |
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