"Martin Underwood" a@b wrote in
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There are two ring roads around London.

Three. Besides the M25 and North/South Circulars, there's the inner ring
road, which is currently (almost) co-incident with the outer perimiter of
the congestion charge zone. Much like the North Circ used to be (and the
South Circ still is), it's a collection of roads that happen to form a
circumference around "central" London, rather than being a purpose-built
ring-road.

Iain

"Iain" wrote in message
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"Martin Underwood" a@b wrote in
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There are two ring roads around London.

Three. Besides the M25 and North/South Circulars, there's the inner ring
road, which is currently (almost) co-incident with the outer perimiter of
the congestion charge zone. Much like the North Circ used to be (and the
South Circ still is), it's a collection of roads that happen to form a
circumference around "central" London, rather than being a purpose-built
ring-road.

True. I don't tend to think of Marylebone Road / Euston Road / City Road as
being a ring road, but looking at a map it is. I suppose you could continut
it into south London as Borough Road, Westminster Bridge, Victoria Road,
Park Lane and Edgware Road to get back to the starting point.

Martin Underwood wrote:
"Iain" wrote in message
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"Martin Underwood" a@b wrote in
:

There are two ring roads around London.

Three. Besides the M25 and North/South Circulars, there's the
inner ring road, which is currently (almost) co-incident with the
outer perimiter of the congestion charge zone. Much like the North
Circ used to be (and the South Circ still is), it's a collection
of roads that happen to form a circumference around "central"
London, rather than being a purpose-built ring-road.

True. I don't tend to think of Marylebone Road / Euston Road / City
Road as being a ring road, but looking at a map it is. I suppose
you could continut it into south London as Borough Road,
Westminster Bridge, Victoria Road, Park Lane and Edgware Road to
get back to the starting point.

Well, you *could* route the Ring Road that way, but the actual route is
via Tower Bridge and Vauxhall Bridge, and has been for decades. Why
would you want to change it?

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
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Martin Underwood wrote:
"Iain" wrote in message
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"Martin Underwood" a@b wrote in
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There are two ring roads around London.

Three. Besides the M25 and North/South Circulars, there's the
inner ring road, which is currently (almost) co-incident with the
outer perimiter of the congestion charge zone. Much like the North
Circ used to be (and the South Circ still is), it's a collection
of roads that happen to form a circumference around "central"
London, rather than being a purpose-built ring-road.

True. I don't tend to think of Marylebone Road / Euston Road / City
Road as being a ring road, but looking at a map it is. I suppose
you could continue it into south London as Borough Road,
Westminster Bridge, Victoria Road, Park Lane and Edgware Road to
get back to the starting point.

Well, you *could* route the Ring Road that way, but the actual route is
via Tower Bridge and Vauxhall Bridge, and has been for decades. Why
would you want to change it?

Well I hadn't realised that there was a ring road at all that close into
central London until it was mentioned earlier in the thread, so I was
looking on the map for any route that looked roughly circular or oval, with
a bias to the north side of the river because that's where the offices,
shops and places of interest tend to be. But now you mention it, I can see
that Borough High Street continuing to Kennington Park Road and then turning
right past the Oval and up Vauxhall Bridge Road makes a better ring.

Er hang on, you said Tower Bridge, not London Bridge. Where does the ring
road go between City Road and Tower Bridge, and similarly between Tower
Bridge and Kennington Park Road. Is it something like City Road, Old Street,
Great Eastern St, Commercial Street, Whitechapel Road, Minories, Tower
Bridge, Tower Bridge Road, New Kent Road, Kennington Park Road?

It would help if I could find a map that distinguishes this ring road from
other roads: I'm basing my proposed route on a map where the width of the
road on the map varies from one road to another but the ring road evidently
doesn't follow the roads that are widest on the map!

Ah: http://www.cclondon.com/download/DetailMapCCZ.pdf makes it clear where
the ring road probably runs, in that I presume the congestion charge zone
defined to be everywhere within (but excluding) the ring road - and it *is*
the route I suggested above.

In message , at
22:05:09 on Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Martin Underwood remarked:
Besides the M25 and North/South Circulars, there's the inner ring
road, which is currently (almost) co-incident with the outer perimiter of
the congestion charge zone. Much like the North Circ used to be (and the
South Circ still is), it's a collection of roads that happen to form a
circumference around "central" London, rather than being a purpose-built
ring-road.

True. I don't tend to think of Marylebone Road / Euston Road / City Road as
being a ring road, but looking at a map it is. I suppose you could continut
it into south London as Borough Road, Westminster Bridge, Victoria Road,
Park Lane and Edgware Road to get back to the starting point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Inner_Ring_Road

Marylebone Road, Euston Road, Pentonville Road, City Road, Old Street,
Commercial Street, Mansell Street, Tower Bridge Road, New Kent Road,
Elephant and Castle, Vauxhall Bridge Road, Park Lane, Edgware Road.
--
Roland Perry