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mocha September 19th 05 08:35 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
Hi,

As subject line read just wondeirng what the deepest escalotor is on the
tube.

cheers



Martin Underwood September 19th 05 08:44 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
"mocha" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As subject line read just wondeirng what the deepest escalotor is on the
tube.


Depends how you define "deepest escalator". Do you mean:

- height of longest escalator
- deepest top of escalator below ground level
- deepest bottom of escalator below ground level

According to "The London Underground", Oliver Green, Ian Allan, ISBN
0-7110-1720-4, the longest escalator is at Leicester Square on the
Piccadilly Line: 161 ft 6 in (49.6 m) on slope or 80 ft 9 in (24.6 m)
vertical rise.



PJR September 19th 05 08:56 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
...

According to "The London Underground", Oliver Green, Ian Allan, ISBN
0-7110-1720-4, the longest escalator is at Leicester Square on the
Piccadilly Line: 161 ft 6 in (49.6 m) on slope or 80 ft 9 in (24.6 m)
vertical rise.


must be an old book then coz Angel on the Northern Line is 318 steps and 90
feet



David Boothroyd September 19th 05 09:02 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In article ,
"Martin Underwood" wrote:
"mocha" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As subject line read just wondeirng what the deepest escalotor is on the
tube.


Depends how you define "deepest escalator". Do you mean:

- height of longest escalator
- deepest top of escalator below ground level
- deepest bottom of escalator below ground level

According to "The London Underground", Oliver Green, Ian Allan, ISBN
0-7110-1720-4, the longest escalator is at Leicester Square on the
Piccadilly Line: 161 ft 6 in (49.6 m) on slope or 80 ft 9 in (24.6 m)
vertical rise.


I thought the longest was at Angel.

The deepest tube station is Hampstead but this has a lift and not an
escalator.

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mocha September 19th 05 09:33 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
...
"mocha" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As subject line read just wondeirng what the deepest escalotor is on the
tube.


Depends how you define "deepest escalator". Do you mean:

- height of longest escalator
- deepest top of escalator below ground level
- deepest bottom of escalator below ground level

According to "The London Underground", Oliver Green, Ian Allan, ISBN
0-7110-1720-4, the longest escalator is at Leicester Square on the
Piccadilly Line: 161 ft 6 in (49.6 m) on slope or 80 ft 9 in (24.6 m)
vertical rise.


Thanks for the reply

What is the deepest platform below ground level?

I guess al 3 woul dbe an interesting piece of information to know.

The height of the longest escalator would be interesting too.

Cheers



PJR September 19th 05 10:04 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 

"mocha" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the reply

What is the deepest platform below ground level?

I guess al 3 woul dbe an interesting piece of information to know.

The height of the longest escalator would be interesting too.

Cheers


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/company/facts.asp

Incdentally, you can find the answers to all such facts extremely easily,
just with a simple Google search.



Martin Underwood September 19th 05 11:17 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
"PJR" wrote in message
...

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
...

According to "The London Underground", Oliver Green, Ian Allan, ISBN
0-7110-1720-4, the longest escalator is at Leicester Square on the
Piccadilly Line: 161 ft 6 in (49.6 m) on slope or 80 ft 9 in (24.6 m)
vertical rise.


must be an old book then coz Angel on the Northern Line is 318 steps and
90 feet


Yes, it was published in 1987. I looked to see if I had a more recent book
that gave more up-to-date information, but I hadn't.

I hadn't realised that Angel had taken the record away from Leicester
Square. I know that Angel was remodelled fairly extensively to replace the
very narrow two-faced island platform. Were two separate escalators combined
into one or was the booking office moved further away, requiring a
longer/higher escalator?



September 20th 05 05:37 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
Martin Underwood said:


I know that Angel was remodelled fairly extensively to
replace the very narrow two-faced island platform. Were two separate
escalators combined into one or was the booking office moved further
away, requiring a longer/higher escalator?


I believe the booking office was moved.

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Mark Brader September 20th 05 06:35 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
Martin Underwood:
I know that Angel was remodelled fairly extensively to
replace the very narrow two-faced island platform. Were two separate
escalators combined into one or was the booking office moved further
away, requiring a longer/higher escalator?


Pippa Moran:
I believe the booking office was moved.


Yes. And there was a lift before, not an escalator.
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Roland Perry September 20th 05 08:53 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at 06:37:43 on
Tue, 20 Sep 2005, remarked:
I know that Angel was remodelled fairly extensively to
replace the very narrow two-faced island platform. Were two separate
escalators combined into one or was the booking office moved further
away, requiring a longer/higher escalator?


I believe the booking office was moved.


The booking office moved round the corner, but didn't substantially go
"up" or "down". The remodelling replaced a lift with escalators. One
very long one and one shorter one.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry September 20th 05 08:56 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at
21:33:28 on Mon, 19 Sep 2005, mocha remarked:

What is the deepest platform below ground level?


Hampstead. Because the ground there is very high.

The general topic of "deepest below sea level" was also debated about a
month ago. I'm not sure we came to a definite conclusion, but it could
be Westminster-Jubilee, or if you count the DLR, perhaps Cutty Sark.
It's definitely not Waterloo, although the deepest *line* (below sea
level) is near there.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry September 20th 05 08:57 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at
23:04:15 on Mon, 19 Sep 2005, PJR remarked:
Incdentally, you can find the answers to all such facts extremely easily,
just with a simple Google search.


If you can find the deepest platform below sea level I'll be very
impressed (not counting our discussion here last month).
--
Roland Perry

Tom Anderson September 20th 05 10:28 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, mocha wrote:

What is the deepest platform below ground level?

I guess all 3 would be an interesting piece of information to know.

The height of the longest escalator would be interesting too.


Then you may be interested in Clive's comprehensive treatment of the
subject:

http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/vertical.html
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/vdetails.html

tom

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John Rowland September 20th 05 04:53 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
.uk...
In message , at 06:37:43 on
Tue, 20 Sep 2005, remarked:

I know that Angel was remodelled fairly extensively to
replace the very narrow two-faced island platform.
Were two separate escalators combined into one
or was the booking office moved further
away, requiring a longer/higher escalator?


I believe the booking office was moved.


The booking office moved round the corner, but didn't
substantially go "up" or "down". The remodelling replaced
a lift with escalators. One very long one and one shorter one.


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Paul Scott September 21st 05 01:01 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 

"Mark Brader" wrote in message
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Yes. And there was a lift before, not an escalator.
--


Isn't the replacement of lifts with escalators the reasoning behind some of
the central area station closures; ie when the surface buidings were no
longer directly above the stations, their entrances were so close both
stations were no longer justified.

Paul Scott



Roland Perry September 21st 05 02:03 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at
13:01:35 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Paul Scott
remarked:
Isn't the replacement of lifts with escalators the reasoning behind some of
the central area station closures; ie when the surface buidings were no
longer directly above the stations, their entrances were so close both
stations were no longer justified.


That's often quoted for Down St/Green Park. Haven't heard it for any
others though.
--
Roland Perry

PJR September 21st 05 06:15 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
.uk...
In message , at
23:04:15 on Mon, 19 Sep 2005, PJR remarked:
Incdentally, you can find the answers to all such facts extremely easily,
just with a simple Google search.


If you can find the deepest platform below sea level I'll be very
impressed (not counting our discussion here last month).
--
Roland Perry


The answer was in the link on the post that you replied to, kind of proving
my point ....



Roland Perry September 21st 05 07:07 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at
19:15:36 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, PJR remarked:
If you can find the deepest platform below sea level I'll be very
impressed (not counting our discussion here last month).


The answer was in the link on the post that you replied to, kind of proving
my point ....


That's very odd. As recently as last month when this discussion was last
held, the deepest point (below sea level) was quoted as being on the
northern line a little south of Waterloo; I wonder why the tfl site
never got quoted (rather than several others).

The figure of 105ft below sea level is a little suspect, as the
published drop for their lifts is 100ft, and ground level is about 35ft
above sea level. Oh well.
--
Roland Perry

David Biddulph September 21st 05 08:30 PM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
.uk...
In message , at
19:15:36 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, PJR remarked:
If you can find the deepest platform below sea level I'll be very
impressed (not counting our discussion here last month).


The answer was in the link on the post that you replied to, kind of
proving
my point ....


That's very odd. As recently as last month when this discussion was last
held, the deepest point (below sea level) was quoted as being on the
northern line a little south of Waterloo; I wonder why the tfl site never
got quoted (rather than several others).


The tfl site was indeed quoted. See my posting of 8:39 pm on Aug 24th:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...1c1612e999fa11
--
David Biddulph



Roland Perry September 22nd 05 06:50 AM

deepest escalator on the underground?
 
In message , at
20:30:31 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, David Biddulph
remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
o.uk...
In message , at
19:15:36 on Wed, 21 Sep 2005, PJR remarked:
If you can find the deepest platform below sea level I'll be very
impressed (not counting our discussion here last month).


The answer was in the link on the post that you replied to, kind of
proving
my point ....


That's very odd. As recently as last month when this discussion was last
held, the deepest point (below sea level) was quoted as being on the
northern line a little south of Waterloo; I wonder why the tfl site never
got quoted (rather than several others).


The tfl site was indeed quoted. See my posting of 8:39 pm on Aug 24th:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...ad/604b84a8678
5acef/fd1c1612e999fa11?q=deepest&rnum=1#fd1c1612e999fa11


What I can't work out is how you managed to post:

From http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/company/facts.asp:
Bank (DLR concourse): 41.4m (136ft) below street level.
I thought that the street there might be between 10 and 20m
above sea level, but I don't have a detailed map of that area,
and

followed by the now outdated, and contradicted by tfl's site:

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Statistics.htm confirms the
statement above, that the deepest below sea level is Waterloo
(Northern) at 21.3m

All in one paragraph!

It was exactly a result of this that made me think the tfl site didn't
quote Westminster as the deepest platform, because it's clearly deeper
than Waterloo, and yet you didn't mention this!
--
Roland Perry


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