Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

Never known it so difficult to get in/out of Enfield by rail this weekend:-

Southbury Loop/Enfield Town - Liverpool Street service bustituted
Hertford Loop (Enfield Chase) - reduced service of one train an hour due to
E.C.M.L. diversions
Cockfosters - (Enfield West, now Oakwood) Wood Green - bustituted
Stevenage - Alexandra Palace via New Barnet (another Enfield - London rail
access via 307 bus) -
Yes you have guessed it, bustituted.

Bustituted rail services all take at least double the time of the train
journey. Many passengers
put of travelling or go by car adding to the already haplessly overcrowded
roads in North London.

Dave C

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, david cockle wrote:

Never known it so difficult to get in/out of Enfield by rail this weekend:-

Southbury Loop/Enfield Town - Liverpool Street service bustituted
Hertford Loop (Enfield Chase) - reduced service of one train an hour due to
E.C.M.L. diversions
Cockfosters - (Enfield West, now Oakwood) Wood Green - bustituted
Stevenage - Alexandra Palace via New Barnet (another Enfield - London rail
access via 307 bus) -
Yes you have guessed it, bustituted.

Bloody hell! I didn't realise it was quite that bad. Is this just a
complete failure of joined-up engineering, or does someone have it in for
Metropolitan Hertfordshire?

I was caught up in it myself - i thought i'd go for a bike ride into the
country, then get a train back. Hertford, i thought to myself - i'll be
able to get a quick train home from there. Next time, i'll check the NR
engineering work webpage before doing something like that.

tom

--
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Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

In article ,
(david cockle) wrote:

Never known it so difficult to get in/out of Enfield by rail this
weekend:-

Southbury Loop/Enfield Town - Liverpool Street service bustituted
Hertford Loop (Enfield Chase) - reduced service of one train an hour
due to E.C.M.L. diversions
Cockfosters - (Enfield West, now Oakwood) Wood Green - bustituted
Stevenage - Alexandra Palace via New Barnet (another Enfield - London
rail access via 307 bus) -
Yes you have guessed it, bustituted.

Bustituted rail services all take at least double the time of the train
journey. Many passengers put of travelling or go by car adding to the
already haplessly overcrowded roads in North London.

It's Cambridge's turn later this month. Until December the King's Cross
service is diverted via Hertford, reduced to two trains an hour and
slowed down but as a special treat for half term week (and both
adjoining weekends) they are blockading the line between Shepreth Branch
Junction and Stansted so no Liverpool Street services at all.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

And all the time Wagn have no train service, their brand new Journey
Check service has been saying "No problems" with NO information being
given about the buses, or what times they are. Check Wagn's site, the
JCheck service (WAP, PDA or web) or National Rail, and you're simply
told there are NO services at all on Saturday or Sunday.

It's a joke.. and I can't believe Wagn has produced a bunch of posters
and pamphlets on the new journey check service when it doesn't give ANY
information on engineering work or bus replacements. Amazingly, Nexus
Alpha has managed to do it for the likes of Silverlink, Central Trains,
One and SWT (and presumably all the other TOCs they've launched the
service for).

I simply used Thameslink to go into London yesterday. Cost me £2.90 to
the Zone 6 boundary (Gold card discount) and the train got to KX from
St Albans in 19 minutes! Add on £1 for parking, and Wagn can go to
hell until December.. Of course, Wagn won't be complaining that so few
people will be wanting to sit on a bus for an hour or two in each
direction.

Jonathan

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

In article .com,
() wrote:

And all the time Wagn have no train service, their brand new Journey
Check service has been saying "No problems" with NO information being
given about the buses, or what times they are. Check Wagn's site, the
JCheck service (WAP, PDA or web) or National Rail, and you're simply
told there are NO services at all on Saturday or Sunday.

It's a joke.. and I can't believe Wagn has produced a bunch of posters
and pamphlets on the new journey check service when it doesn't give ANY
information on engineering work or bus replacements. Amazingly, Nexus
Alpha has managed to do it for the likes of Silverlink, Central Trains,
One and SWT (and presumably all the other TOCs they've launched the
service for).

I simply used Thameslink to go into London yesterday. Cost me £2.90 to
the Zone 6 boundary (Gold card discount) and the train got to KX from
St Albans in 19 minutes! Add on £1 for parking, and Wagn can go to
hell until December.. Of course, Wagn won't be complaining that so few
people will be wanting to sit on a bus for an hour or two in each
direction.

WAGN are running trains to London via the Hertford Loop. Which is your
WAGN station?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...

Bloody hell! I didn't realise it was quite that bad.
Is this just a complete failure of joined-up engineering,
or does someone have it in for Metropolitan Hertfordshire?

When was Enfield in Hertfordshire?

--
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Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
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A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, John Rowland wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...

Bloody hell! I didn't realise it was quite that bad. Is this just a
complete failure of joined-up engineering, or does someone have it in
for Metropolitan Hertfordshire?

When was Enfield in Hertfordshire?

Pass.

And YKVeryWellWIM!

tom

--
taxidermy, high tide marks, sabotage, markets, folklore, subverting, .

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

John Rowland wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...

Bloody hell! I didn't realise it was quite that bad.
Is this just a complete failure of joined-up engineering,
or does someone have it in for Metropolitan Hertfordshire?

When was Enfield in Hertfordshire?

It still is, or to be more accurate, parts of the London Borough of
Enfield have postal addresses in which the (optional) postal county is
Hertfordshire. For example, Cockfosters Station, Cockfosters Road,
BARNET, Hertfordshire, EN4 0DZ.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...

Bloody hell! I didn't realise it was quite that bad.
Is this just a complete failure of joined-up engineering,
or does someone have it in for Metropolitan Hertfordshire?

When was Enfield in Hertfordshire?

It still is, or to be more accurate, parts of the London Borough of
Enfield have postal addresses in which the (optional) postal county is
Hertfordshire. For example, Cockfosters Station, Cockfosters Road,
BARNET, Hertfordshire, EN4 0DZ.


And that's why postal counties are teh ghey.

That example address alludes to the county of Herts AND the borough of
Barnet AND the borough of Enfield. It's all over the place.

Officially I believe Enfield has only ever been in Middlesex and latterly
Greater London.

BTN

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

that's why postal counties are teh ghey.

pardon?

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(220 005 passing Winwick at speed on 24 Feb 2005)

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
...
Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

that's why postal counties are teh ghey.

pardon?


The 'County' names used by the Postal Service to determine peoples
addresses.

BTN

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:
"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
...
Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

that's why postal counties are teh ghey.

pardon?

The 'County' names used by the Postal Service to determine peoples
addresses.

That wasn't the part of the sentence I was looking for help with...
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Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
. ..

that's why postal counties are teh ghey.

pardon?

The 'County' names used by the Postal Service to determine peoples
addresses.

That wasn't the part of the sentence I was looking for help with...


Oh? Did you think my sentence was teh ghey in some way?

BTN

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
WAGN are running trains to London via the Hertford Loop. Which is your
WAGN station?

Hatfield. From there, they are running buses all stations every thirty
minutes and a fast shuttle to Finsbury Park either hourly, or possibly
every half hour.

You'll only get that info if you go to the station though, or manage to
get hold of the leaf fall timetable that is being printed at the
moment. To confuse matters, the bus timings are totally different on
Saturday and Sunday!

Anyone who tries to check the train service on the Alexandra Palace -
WGC Inner lines will be told there are no delays/incidents but also
that there are NO trains due. This will be if you use the Wagn website,
the Journey Check service on your mobile, PDA/smartphone or any mobile
phone operator portal (linked to the National Rail WAP site). My guess
is these people won't then go to Hatfield, Potters Bar, Hadley Wood or
whatever.

The service from Hertford North is greatly reduced to accomodate the
GNER trains and other services to Peterborough and Cambridge. Thus, for
me, it's better to pay to use Thameslink from St Albans.

I was told I could use my season from Hertford North without paying
extra, but I haven't bothered to try yet. In any case, the drive to
Hertford is the same as to St Albans and then it's a slow, all station,
service compared to one stop to KX Thameslink in less than 20 minutes!

I think Wagn have really made a mess of things. They had an excuse when
the first weekend happened, as it was allegedly a week ahead of
schedule, catching them out. When are they going to update their online
timetables? This is EVERY weekend from now until December, not just a
few hours here and there!!

Jonathan

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

Oh? Did you think my sentence was teh ghey in some way?

I don't know yet.

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(73 127 zipping through Southampton Central with covered wagons in 1985)

Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
 

In article om,
() wrote:

*Subject:* Greatly reduced rail acess to Enfield over the weekend
*From:*
*Date:* 3 Oct 2005 09:07:28 -0700

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
WAGN are running trains to London via the Hertford Loop. Which is you
r
WAGN station?

Hatfield. From there, they are running buses all stations every thirty
minutes and a fast shuttle to Finsbury Park either hourly, or possibly
every half hour.

You'll only get that info if you go to the station though, or manage to
get hold of the leaf fall timetable that is being printed at the
moment. To confuse matters, the bus timings are totally different on
Saturday and Sunday!

Anyone who tries to check the train service on the Alexandra Palace -
WGC Inner lines will be told there are no delays/incidents but also
that there are NO trains due. This will be if you use the Wagn website,
the Journey Check service on your mobile, PDA/smartphone or any mobile
phone operator portal (linked to the National Rail WAP site). My guess
is these people won't then go to Hatfield, Potters Bar, Hadley Wood or
whatever.

The service from Hertford North is greatly reduced to accomodate the
GNER trains and other services to Peterborough and Cambridge. Thus, for
me, it's better to pay to use Thameslink from St Albans.

I was told I could use my season from Hertford North without paying
extra, but I haven't bothered to try yet. In any case, the drive to
Hertford is the same as to St Albans and then it's a slow, all station,
service compared to one stop to KX Thameslink in less than 20 minutes!

I think Wagn have really made a mess of things. They had an excuse when
the first weekend happened, as it was allegedly a week ahead of
schedule, catching them out. When are they going to update their online
timetables? This is EVERY weekend from now until December, not just a
few hours here and there!!

How clueless can they get? Bus arrives from Hatfield (taking 3/4 hour!)
at xx.01 to miss a connection to King's Cross leaving at xx:00, next one
arriving xx:33. You can leave Hatfield 14 minutes later, take a bus to
Stevenage and get to King's Cross at xx:38. Doh!

It's all on WAGN's web site though.

--
Colin Rosenstiel