On 4 Oct 2005 14:57:10 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

How about installing Oyster readers in all London train stations?
*Then* TFL can start shoving oysters down people's necks.

They already are installed at every station in London that has
barriers (except Romford). At stations without barriers, they would
serve no purpose anyway (you don't need to touch in/out if you have a
Travelcard season).

If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket. With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

asdf wrote:
On 4 Oct 2005 14:57:10 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

How about installing Oyster readers in all London train stations?
*Then* TFL can start shoving oysters down people's necks.

They already are installed at every station in London that has
barriers (except Romford). At stations without barriers, they would
serve no purpose anyway (you don't need to touch in/out if you have a
Travelcard season).

But there are many stations without barriers.

If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket. With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

--
Paul

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0100, Paul
wrote:

asdf wrote:
On 4 Oct 2005 14:57:10 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

How about installing Oyster readers in all London train stations?
*Then* TFL can start shoving oysters down people's necks.

They already are installed at every station in London that has
barriers (except Romford). At stations without barriers, they would
serve no purpose anyway (you don't need to touch in/out if you have a
Travelcard season).

But there are many stations without barriers.

If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket. With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

If you care about the discount, you'll go out of your way once a year
to buy your Travelcard.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

James Farrar wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0100, Paul
paulroberthill_NOSPAM wrote:
If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket. With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

If you care about the discount, you'll go out of your way once a year
to buy your Travelcard.

I buy monthly (as I think the majority of people do). An annual Z1-5
travelcard is a lot of money to pay in one lump sum.

--
Paul

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:58:02 +0100, Paul
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0100, Paul
paulroberthill_NOSPAM wrote:
If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket. With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

If you care about the discount, you'll go out of your way once a year
to buy your Travelcard.

I buy monthly (as I think the majority of people do). An annual Z1-5
travelcard is a lot of money to pay in one lump sum.

So you're already choosing to pay more.

I just looked at uswitch.com and it gave me a whole list of 12-month
loans that the monthly payment is less than a monthly Travelcard
(using the example of a Z1-5 as quoted).

And that assumes that your employer doesn't offer interest-free loans
for such a purpose.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

"James Farrar" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:58:02 +0100, Paul
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0100, Paul
paulroberthill_NOSPAM wrote:
If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket.
With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

If you care about the discount, you'll go out of your way once a year
to buy your Travelcard.

I buy monthly (as I think the majority of people do). An annual Z1-5
travelcard is a lot of money to pay in one lump sum.

So you're already choosing to pay more.

No you are not. Anyone with any sense does not buy a monthly
pass to cover their 2 week xmas and summer break and you only
need buy 11 monthly passes (or 10 monthlys and 4 weeklies)

I just looked at uswitch.com and it gave me a whole list of 12-month
loans that the monthly payment is less than a monthly Travelcard
(using the example of a Z1-5 as quoted).

but is it less than 11?

tim

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:43:40 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:

I just looked at uswitch.com and it gave me a whole list of 12-month
loans that the monthly payment is less than a monthly Travelcard
(using the example of a Z1-5 as quoted).

but is it less than 11?

It's fixed at a value of around 10.4.

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:43:40 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:58:02 +0100, Paul
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0100, Paul
paulroberthill_NOSPAM wrote:
If you use a travelcard on national rail stick to a paper ticket.
With
Oyster you pay *more* money. What a con.

If you buy your Travelcard on Oyster from South West Trains (not sure
about other TOCs) they give you the same discount for poor performance
that you'd get with their paper version.

How many SWT stations in London have the facility to sell Oyster cards?
It's only 2 or 3. Same for SET.

If you care about the discount, you'll go out of your way once a year
to buy your Travelcard.

I buy monthly (as I think the majority of people do). An annual Z1-5
travelcard is a lot of money to pay in one lump sum.

So you're already choosing to pay more.

No you are not. Anyone with any sense does not buy a monthly
pass to cover their 2 week xmas and summer break

Assuming you take your holiday as such. In my experience most people
take their holiday entitlement in more than two blocks.

I just looked at uswitch.com and it gave me a whole list of 12-month
loans that the monthly payment is less than a monthly Travelcard
(using the example of a Z1-5 as quoted).

but is it less than 11?

Many are.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com