On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:55:54 +0100, Paul Terry wrote:

In message , Chris Tolley
writes

That I disagree with the assertion and repeating it does not give me any
additional evidence to consider.

OK, let's look at a specific example:

Bus to Richmond station, SWT to Waterloo, tube to office.
The same coming back.

That costs £8 on a one-day Travelcard.

And, realistically, unless you live near a shop selling ODTs, you'll be paying
for the first bus journey so you can buy the ODT at Richmond. Total cost £9 or
£9.50.

Using Oyster pre-pay, the two bus journeys would come to £2, the two
tube journeys would clock up £3.40. Add that to the cost of a day
return on SWT for the bit not covered by Oyster, which is £5.90.
Total using Oyster comes to £11.30.

Have I miscalculated, or does Oyster strike you as "not a sensible
option" for occasional use when it pushes the total cost to nearly 50%
more than a travelcard?

In message , Marc Brett
writes

And, realistically, unless you live near a shop selling ODTs, you'll be paying
for the first bus journey so you can buy the ODT at Richmond.

Always possible, but there are ticket agents close to most main bus
stops here - my local one is next to the bus stop.

Total cost £9 or £9.50.

Still cheaper than using an Oyster.

--
Paul Terry

In message , Paul Terry
writes
Still cheaper than using an Oyster.
Is your personal Oyster not capped?
--
Clive

In message , Clive
writes

In message , Paul Terry
writes

Still cheaper than using an Oyster.

Is your personal Oyster not capped?

You cannot use pre-pay Oyster on South-West Trains (or on most other
National Rail services in London), so the only part of the journey
covered by Oyster is the bus and tube journeys. That comes to £5.90,
which is well below the £8 cap for peak-time travel in both Zones 1-4.

--
Paul Terry

"Paul Terry" wrote in message ...
In message , Clive writes

In message , Paul Terry writes

Still cheaper than using an Oyster.

Is your personal Oyster not capped?

You cannot use pre-pay Oyster on South-West Trains (or on most other National Rail services in
London), so the only part of the journey covered by Oyster is the bus and tube journeys. That
comes to £5.90, which is well below the £8 cap for peak-time travel in both Zones 1-4.

You would come under the Zone 1 cap as all your tube use is in Zone 1.
Bus journeys ignore zones and are included in any capped tube price even
if the bus journey was in a totally different zone to the tube cap.

Not sure what that makes your cap without looking it up.

In message , TKD
writes

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...

You cannot use pre-pay Oyster on South-West Trains (or on most other
National Rail services in London), so the only part of the journey
covered by Oyster is the bus and tube journeys. That comes to £5.90,
which is well below the £8 cap for peak-time travel in both Zones 1-4.

You would come under the Zone 1 cap as all your tube use is in Zone 1.
Bus journeys ignore zones and are included in any capped tube price even
if the bus journey was in a totally different zone to the tube cap.

Not sure what that makes your cap without looking it up.

The Peak Zone 1 cap is £6, so £5.40 (sorry, its not £5.90) still
wouldn't reach the cap. Thus Oyster remains almost 50% more expensive
for the journey I have described.

--
Paul Terry

"Paul Terry" wrote in message ...
In message , TKD writes

"Paul Terry" wrote in message ...

You cannot use pre-pay Oyster on South-West Trains (or on most other National Rail services in
London), so the only part of the journey covered by Oyster is the bus and tube journeys. That
comes to £5.90, which is well below the £8 cap for peak-time travel in both Zones 1-4.

You would come under the Zone 1 cap as all your tube use is in Zone 1.
Bus journeys ignore zones and are included in any capped tube price even
if the bus journey was in a totally different zone to the tube cap.

Not sure what that makes your cap without looking it up.

The Peak Zone 1 cap is £6, so £5.40 (sorry, its not £5.90) still wouldn't reach the cap. Thus
Oyster remains almost 50% more expensive for the journey I have described.

If I were you I'd buy a travelcard. :-)

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:59:22 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote:

In message , TKD
writes

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...

You cannot use pre-pay Oyster on South-West Trains (or on most other
National Rail services in London), so the only part of the journey
covered by Oyster is the bus and tube journeys. That comes to £5.90,
which is well below the £8 cap for peak-time travel in both Zones 1-4.

You would come under the Zone 1 cap as all your tube use is in Zone 1.
Bus journeys ignore zones and are included in any capped tube price even
if the bus journey was in a totally different zone to the tube cap.

Not sure what that makes your cap without looking it up.

The Peak Zone 1 cap is £6, so £5.40 (sorry, its not £5.90) still
wouldn't reach the cap. Thus Oyster remains almost 50% more expensive
for the journey I have described.

If you cared about costs, you'd get the District line from Richmond...

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:52:58 +0100, Marc Brett
wrote:

And, realistically, unless you live near a shop selling ODTs, you'll be paying
for the first bus journey so you can buy the ODT at Richmond. Total cost £9 or
£9.50.

A bit weak. Your local newsagent sells them. In advance, if required.