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David Bradley said:
I thought that the time had actually come to draw in line in the sand over the exchanges made at uk.transport.london and the only reason I kept it going for so long is that Internet searches on the West London Tram would reveal discussions going on in this backwater. Charming. However it seem no matter how much I dot the eyes or cross the tees it never seems to be enough to satisfy some people that are sceptical that a trolleybus solution can deliver any real benefits. And what does that suggest about your trolleybus solution? Maybe the situation is more complex than your claims that "All trolleybuses are good" would suggest? I thought it would be reasonably easy to respond to the issues raised by you but found myself very quickly bogged down trying to provide bullet point replies. All I could manage was several paragraphs before getting a headache Yes, well, the real world is more complicated than your "Trolleybuses are always good" mantra. I'm sorry if that gives you a headache, but it can't be helped. If there is going to be street based public transport along the Uxbridge Road Ah, that is a very big "if". Why should we restrict ourselves to only considering "street based public transport along the Uxbridge Road"? Instead, we could use our imaginations and creativity to come up with approaches that are totally different. If we say a trolleybus option is better than a tram, then we have arrived at that conclusion by considerable research into TfL's tram scheme. Take care you don't fall into what boffins call "the Fallacy of Induction". Just because *a* trolleybus scheme is better than *a* tram scheme, you can't always assume that all trolleybus schemes are better than all tram schemes. Your response was "I would hope that whatever mode of WLT is chosen, it wouldn't integrate its stops with bus stops. Keeping them separate would help establish it in the public's imagination as something new and different. This will help stimulate their curiosity more than just the same old bus routes calling at the same old bus stops but with added overhead cables." Taking this text alone I assume you intended to throw the baby out with the bathwater by not even trying to have an integrated public transport system. Not at all. I just have a different perception of "integrated" than you. After all, you don't expect buses to stop at the platforms in railway stations, do you? They stop on the street outside. And in, for example, Euston station, the mainline trains don't share the same platforms as the tube trains. (Heck, even the Northern Line branches don't stop at the same platforms as each other.) Does this mean they aren't "integrated" in your book? |
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