I thought that newsgroup readers might like to see the Electric Tbus
Group's analysis of the West London Transit sceeme using 'rubber tyred
electric trams', ie. Trolleybuses, as submitted to TfL. The Group
found that it would be possible to wire into Ealing Hospital, into
Ealing Broadway Station and avoid all diversions of 'other' traffic on
to side streets (page 4).

Trolleybus overhead is lighter than tram equivalents and despite
having 2 wires, has generally less visual impact.

The document can be found at:
http://www.cyberpictures.net/WLTTbusSolution.doc

Being in Microsoft Word document format it might cause your PC
security to throw a wobbly but I hope that you will find a solution to
that problem to enable viewing of this document which has been several
months in the making.

Please feel to pass it on to others. Do post a message here if you'd
like to know more, sadly giving a valid email address generates more
spam than my humble inbox can cope with.

David Bradley

David Bradley wrote:
... The document can be found at:
http://www.cyberpictures.net/WLTTbusSolution.doc

Being in Microsoft Word document format ...

.... it may happen that some readers can not access this
document at all because they don't have a reader for this
format. Would you be so kind and translate it into HTML?
Then anybody with a web browser could read it.

Jan-Martin

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:33:20 GMT, Jan-Martin Hertzsch
wrote:

David Bradley wrote:
... The document can be found at:
http://www.cyberpictures.net/WLTTbusSolution.doc

Being in Microsoft Word document format ...

... it may happen that some readers can not access this
document at all because they don't have a reader for this
format. Would you be so kind and translate it into HTML?
Then anybody with a web browser could read it.

Jan-Martin



Converting the document into HTML format has resulted in the
presentation of many of the tables into a most unsatisfactory format.
They are corrupted so badly that the effort to manually tidy it all up
would be extensive. Perhaps converting to PDF format might be a
possibility, but I don't have that software.

Then of course not every web browser renders mark-up in the same way,
even if it is HTML4.01 compliant, so I can't win there either!

For those that don't have MS Word available on their PC, then the
solution is to use the free Word Viewer obtainable from:
http://office.microsoft.com/download...wd97vwr32.aspx.

Yes MS Word is not the best way to circulate the information to
newsgroup readers but I am sure if the end user is really **that**
interested, a way will be found to read the document. In excess of a
100 downloads have been made since posting my original message, so
perhaps we are all worrying about this issue quite unnecessarily.

David Bradley

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:11:00 +0000, David Bradley
wrote:

Then of course not every web browser renders mark-up in the same way,
even if it is HTML4.01 compliant, so I can't win there either!

Erm, that's the whole point! If you are trying to get your pages to
look that same, you will go slowly mad to no benefit. Don't even try.
If the document is important, it will be the content that matters, not
the presentation.

For those that don't have MS Word available on their PC, then the
solution is to use the free Word Viewer obtainable from:
http://office.microsoft.com/download...wd97vwr32.aspx.

Yes MS Word is not the best way to circulate the information to
newsgroup readers but I am sure if the end user is really **that**
interested, a way will be found to read the document.

But you've lost the people who might quickly glance at it to see if it
was of interest.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

format. Would you be so kind and translate it into HTML?
Then anybody with a web browser could read it.

Or PDF, which is far more cross-platform than Microsoft Word files. There
are free PDF writers a-plenty nowadays.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:11:00 +0000, David Bradley
wrote in :

Converting the document into HTML format has resulted in the
presentation of many of the tables into a most unsatisfactory format.
They are corrupted so badly that the effort to manually tidy it all up
would be extensive. Perhaps converting to PDF format might be a
possibility, but I don't have that software.

I do the following:
a) Print to a PostScript printer and select "print to file".
b) In cygwin or Linux use ps2pdf13 to convert the PostScript to .pdf.

Only works if you have a UNIX-alike system to play with, of course.

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:40:34 -0500, "Fustanella"
wrote:

format. Would you be so kind and translate it into HTML?
Then anybody with a web browser could read it.

Or PDF, which is far more cross-platform than Microsoft Word files. There
are free PDF writers a-plenty nowadays.


Great, just one suitable URL would be helpful.

David Bradley

"David Bradley" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:40:34 -0500, "Fustanella"
wrote:

format. Would you be so kind and translate it into HTML?
Then anybody with a web browser could read it.

Or PDF, which is far more cross-platform than Microsoft Word files. There
are free PDF writers a-plenty nowadays.


Great, just one suitable URL would be helpful.

CutePDF is brilliant. Appears as a printer so it couldn't be easier.
Doesn't work with NT though.

http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

Good luck!
Angus

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:11:00 +0000, David Bradley
wrote in :

Converting the document into HTML format has resulted in the
presentation of many of the tables into a most unsatisfactory format.
They are corrupted so badly that the effort to manually tidy it all up
would be extensive. Perhaps converting to PDF format might be a
possibility, but I don't have that software.

I do the following:
a) Print to a PostScript printer and select "print to file".
b) In cygwin or Linux use ps2pdf13 to convert the PostScript to .pdf.

Only works if you have a UNIX-alike system to play with, of course.

You can do (b) with Ghostscript, which runs natively (ie without Cygwin)
on Windows, too; you just feed it the PostScript file and tell it to use
pdf as its output device (i forget the exact flags, but it's pretty
straightforward).

Alternatively, use a Mac, where you can print straight to PDF without any
fancy software - or at least, any fancy software other than OS X!

tom

--
I'm angry, but not Milk and Cheese angry. -- Mike Froggatt

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:46:11 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote in :
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:11:00 +0000, David Bradley
wrote in :

Converting the document into HTML format has resulted in the
presentation of many of the tables into a most unsatisfactory format.
They are corrupted so badly that the effort to manually tidy it all up
would be extensive. Perhaps converting to PDF format might be a
possibility, but I don't have that software.

I do the following:
a) Print to a PostScript printer and select "print to file".
b) In cygwin or Linux use ps2pdf13 to convert the PostScript to .pdf.

Only works if you have a UNIX-alike system to play with, of course.

You can do (b) with Ghostscript, which runs natively (ie without Cygwin)
on Windows, too; you just feed it the PostScript file and tell it to use
pdf as its output device (i forget the exact flags, but it's pretty
straightforward).

That's entirely reasonable, as the family of ps2pdf converters
are just frontends for ghostscript.

Alternatively, use a Mac, where you can print straight to PDF without any
fancy software - or at least, any fancy software other than OS X!

Which is, of course, a UNIX-alike. :-)

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD. "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".