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John Rowland November 9th 05 12:21 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
http://capitaltransport.com/New%20Site/Main.htm

Great collection of London tube maps. I haven't read the text yet, but I
know Maxwell Roberts and am sure it will be excellent.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Ian Jelf November 9th 05 05:18 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
In message , John Rowland
writes
http://capitaltransport.com/New%20Site/Main.htm

Great collection of London tube maps. I haven't read the text yet, but I
know Maxwell Roberts and am sure it will be excellent.


I bought a copy earlier in the week.

John's right, it is very good indeed. Anyone who enjoyed the wonderful
Mr. Beck's Underground Map" will enjoy this very much, too.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
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Mike Cawood, HND BIT November 9th 05 08:35 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
http://capitaltransport.com/New%20Site/Main.htm

Great collection of London tube maps. I haven't read the text yet, but

I
know Maxwell Roberts and am sure it will be excellent.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes


Nice books but as is usual for transport books they are grossly over
priced.
Regards Mike.

--
The best thing about Christmas is when it's over.


Jonathan Stott November 9th 05 08:51 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Mike Cawood, HND BIT wrote:

http://capitaltransport.com/New%20Site/Main.htm

Great collection of London tube maps. I haven't read the text yet, but


I

know Maxwell Roberts and am sure it will be excellent.


Nice books but as is usual for transport books they are grossly over
priced.


Probably because of the small print runs. Anyway, my copy is on order
(and I might be able to get my University to pay for them seeing as they
are relevant to my academic research).

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/
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Pat Ricroft November 9th 05 08:52 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Mike Cawood, HND BIT wrote:

Nice books but as is usual for transport books they are grossly over
priced.


Don't worry - I expect it will be heavily remaindered within six
months. How many people are going to have even a passing interest in a
"great collection of London tube maps"?

I like looking at railway maps as much as the next gricer, but this
really is a stunningly narrow field of research. "London Underground
Maps Before and After Beck" might have had some merit. "Underground
Railway Maps of the World and the Influence of Beck" would have been
worth a look. But who on earth is going to examine a collection of
virtually identical London Underground maps, where the only changes
over several decades have been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep
of the Jubilee? g, d + r
--
Pat Ricroft, City of Salford, UK
================================


Jonathan Stott November 9th 05 09:01 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Pat Ricroft wrote:

Don't worry - I expect it will be heavily remaindered within six
months. How many people are going to have even a passing interest in a
"great collection of London tube maps"?

I like looking at railway maps as much as the next gricer, but this
really is a stunningly narrow field of research. "London Underground
Maps Before and After Beck" might have had some merit. "Underground
Railway Maps of the World and the Influence of Beck" would have been
worth a look. But who on earth is going to examine a collection of
virtually identical London Underground maps, where the only changes
over several decades have been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep
of the Jubilee? g, d + r


Er, me? ;)

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/
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Pat Ricroft November 9th 05 09:11 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Jonathan Stott wrote:
Pat Ricroft wrote:

But who on earth is going to examine a collection of
virtually identical London Underground maps, where the only changes
over several decades have been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep
of the Jubilee? g, d + r


Er, me? ;)


I look forward to a full review in due course!

Perhaps along the following lines:
"A brave attempt to render the full glory of the developing Tube map
over five decades, but sadly let down by the printers, who were unable
to reproduce the proper shade of brown for the Bakerloo line in the
1967 map."
--
Pat Ricroft, City of Salford, UK
================================


Jonathan Stott November 9th 05 09:18 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Pat Ricroft wrote:

I look forward to a full review in due course!

Perhaps along the following lines:
"A brave attempt to render the full glory of the developing Tube map
over five decades, but sadly let down by the printers, who were unable
to reproduce the proper shade of brown for the Bakerloo line in the
1967 map."


Most likely ;) But I'm particularly interested in the subtleties of
design which I guess you don't really notice day-to-day.

BTW, I'm doing research into drawing maps like these, so any insight is
worth following up for my thesis :)

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/
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Graeme Wall November 9th 05 09:43 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
In message . com
"Pat Ricroft" wrote:

Mike Cawood, HND BIT wrote:

Nice books but as is usual for transport books they are grossly over
priced.


Don't worry - I expect it will be heavily remaindered within six
months. How many people are going to have even a passing interest in a
"great collection of London tube maps"?

I like looking at railway maps as much as the next gricer, but this
really is a stunningly narrow field of research. "London Underground
Maps Before and After Beck" might have had some merit. "Underground
Railway Maps of the World and the Influence of Beck" would have been
worth a look.


I think someone has already done that. Not with that particlar title of
course but certainly that idea.

I've got a copy of the Beck book and it is fascinating. Maps and their
history are 'sexy' at the moment, viz the recent series on BBC. This sounds
like another jump on the bandwagon.

But who on earth is going to examine a collection of virtually identical
London Underground maps, where the only changes over several decades have
been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep of the Jubilee? g, d + r


mode = sad

I've been collecting the freebee maps for about 30 years, try and get one
each time there is a change to the network.

/mode

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Graeme Wall November 9th 05 09:44 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
In message .com
"Pat Ricroft" wrote:

Jonathan Stott wrote:
Pat Ricroft wrote:

But who on earth is going to examine a collection of
virtually identical London Underground maps, where the only changes
over several decades have been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep
of the Jubilee? g, d + r


Er, me? ;)


I look forward to a full review in due course!

Perhaps along the following lines:
"A brave attempt to render the full glory of the developing Tube map
over five decades, but sadly let down by the printers, who were unable
to reproduce the proper shade of brown for the Bakerloo line in the
1967 map."


ITYM the 1966 map g,d&r

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Chippy November 9th 05 12:24 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Graeme Wall wrote:

I've got a copy of the Beck book and it is fascinating. Maps and their
history are 'sexy' at the moment, viz the recent series on BBC. This sounds
like another jump on the bandwagon.

But who on earth is going to examine a collection of virtually identical
London Underground maps, where the only changes over several decades have
been the Victoria Line and the gradual creep of the Jubilee? g, d + r


mode = sad

I've been collecting the freebee maps for about 30 years, try and get one
each time there is a change to the network.

/mode


Save yourself £18.05 - as much as anyone needs to know is at:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clivebi...tube/tube.html


John Rowland November 9th 05 12:37 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...

I've got a copy of the Beck book and it is fascinating.
Maps and their history are 'sexy' at the moment,
viz the recent series on BBC. This sounds
like another jump on the bandwagon.


Not really, just the obvious completion of the trilogy started by the Beck
book.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Richard Wright November 9th 05 02:32 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
John Rowland wrote:
Not really, just the obvious completion of the trilogy started by the Beck
book.


Indeed. One would be surprised just how many people *are* interested in
these sorts of books.

Then there are the collectors who will buy anything so long as it's to
do with railways / transport / maps or whatever.

I haven't yet done so, but certainly intend to buy a copy of Maxwell's
book very shortly.


Mark Brader November 9th 05 05:44 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Pat Ricroft:
How many people are going to have even a passing interest in a
"great collection of London tube maps"?


raises hand and gives an odd look
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "I don't have a life; I have a program." --the Doctor
| (Michael Piller, Star Trek: Voyager, "Tattoo")

Clark W. Griswold, Jr. November 9th 05 11:20 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Ian Jelf wrote:

John's right, it is very good indeed. Anyone who enjoyed the wonderful
Mr. Beck's Underground Map" will enjoy this very much, too.


Anyone have a source for a good physical map? That is, something like an A2Z
with a track overlay? The few places I've tried have gone out of stock.

N.I.B. November 10th 05 02:22 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. wrote:
Ian Jelf wrote:


John's right, it is very good indeed. Anyone who enjoyed the wonderful
Mr. Beck's Underground Map" will enjoy this very much, too.



Anyone have a source for a good physical map? That is, something like an A2Z
with a track overlay? The few places I've tried have gone out of stock.


The fold-out ones from the vending machines on the tube are like that.

Clark W. Griswold, Jr. November 10th 05 03:06 AM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
"N.I.B." wrote:

The fold-out ones from the vending machines on the tube are like that.


I'll take a closer look next time. I didn't think those reflected the actual
track locations. Thx.

John Rowland November 10th 05 12:07 PM

New book: Underground Maps After Beck by Maxwell Roberts
 
"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." wrote in message
...
"N.I.B." wrote:

The fold-out ones from the vending machines on the tube are like that.


I'll take a closer look next time. I didn't
think those reflected the actual track locations.


I'm pretty sure they don't.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes




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