"Robert McCall" wrote in message
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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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Saw the most RMs at Trafalgar Square for months this morning. Two of the
heritage buses on the 15 (surprising for a half-hourly frequency). Plus
a couple of 159s there and RM85 at Parliament Square in well-presented
Arriva livery.

Try the London Bus Page, specifically he
http://www.londonbuspage.com/051114.htm

Nice to see Stagecoach made a lovely effort with their allocation!

Regards
John M Upton

My Fotopic Collections:
South Central/Southern, Model Railway & Other Rail Pictures:
http://gallery39764.fotopic.net/

Bus Pics:
http://gallery42239.fotopic.net/

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:29:11 -0000, "JMUpton2000" securitynovels @
freeuk.com wrote:

"Robert McCall" wrote in message
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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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Saw the most RMs at Trafalgar Square for months this morning. Two of the
heritage buses on the 15 (surprising for a half-hourly frequency). Plus
a couple of 159s there and RM85 at Parliament Square in well-presented
Arriva livery.

Try the London Bus Page, specifically he
http://www.londonbuspage.com/051114.htm

Nice to see Stagecoach made a lovely effort with their allocation!

Nice photos. Florid tect though - wish he'd grow up. The bus service
is not designed for enthusiasts desires - its for moving people
safely, effciently, economically and accessibly.


Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:11:00 +0000, Robert Woolley
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:29:11 -0000, "JMUpton2000" securitynovels @
freeuk.com wrote:

Try the London Bus Page, specifically he
http://www.londonbuspage.com/051114.htm

Nice photos. Florid tect though - wish he'd grow up. The bus service
is not designed for enthusiasts desires - its for moving people
safely, effciently, economically and accessibly.

I cannot recall a single article where Matt has demanded a bus service
solely for enthusiasts. His view of what meets the terms you use are
simply different to yours. There is more than one way of delivering such
a system - hence why most bus networks are not like London's.

Aren't people entitled to their opinions even if put with passion?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Full marks to the London Bus Page for telling it like it is. Firstly,
Ken's disgraceful about-turn on the notion of RM retention which he was
elected on, and secondly that bendi-buses are bringing the standards of
the Third World to London. I can't see how, for example, a 25 bus can
now be deemed 'accessible' to anyone living on the middle of the route
(like me!) when almost every bus, whether heading east or west, arrives
crush-loaded worse than a Tube in rush hour since 'free' travel was
introduced. I often travelled off-peak on the 25 and was almost always
able to get a seat downstairs, now buses are arriving full at 0600 in
the morning and 2200 at night! And we're paying for all these
freeloaders via our Council Tax! The last time I saw ticket inspectors
at work - about 9 months ago - the bus arrived at Bow Church and
promptly changed drivers with all doors left often. Needless to say,
seeing the group of six white males in blue trousers, fleeces and white
shirts carrying notebooks preparing to board, four passengers simply
got off to wait for the next bus. Obvious to me, but seemingly
oblivious to the inspectors! OK this debate has been done-to-death, but
the bendies are destined to go down as a short ill-starred abberation,
like the standeed MBS's of the late-60s which were equally hated. Nor I
can't see a Tory Mayor putting up with TfL's Economics of the Madhouse
for very long.

On 20 Nov 2005 06:56:13 -0800, wrote:

Nor I
can't see a Tory Mayor putting up with TfL's Economics of the Madhouse
for very long.


The last lot of Tories' policy towards public transport was to either
(a) let it decay or (B) sell it.

On 20 Nov 2005 06:56:13 -0800, wrote:

Needless to say,
seeing the group of six white males in blue trousers, fleeces and white
shirts carrying notebooks preparing to board, four passengers simply
got off to wait for the next bus

So 6 got on, 4 got off. Net result - slightly more congestion :-)

In article .com,
() wrote:

Nor I can't see a Tory Mayor putting up with TfL's Economics of the
Madhouse for very long.

No, I can't see there being a Tory mayor either.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I'm all in favour of a pro-public transport Mayor, and certainly don't
think one in Tory mode will fit that category, but there *will*
eventually be a change of regime at City Hall and if it does fall to
the Conservatives, I fear that the losses stacked up by the
bendy/roadside ticket machine concept will lead to swinging cuts across
the TfL system as a whole.

Bow Road does have a Point there.....
TfL`s Director of Surface Transport,Peter Hendy has been quite voluble
lately on the ReRegulation issue and has underlined the size of
his.......Budget.
With figures of £1 Billion per anum being spoken of for Surface Transport on
London it`s quite obviously an area which would be readily seen as a cost
savers dream.
It`s apparent to most now that fare Evasion IS an increasing problem on LB
services.
TfL figures obtained through the FoI appear to indicate that Fare Evasion is
running at least 25% higher than the figures which they were previously
quoting to the media.
Added to this is the rather dubious principle of extending Free Travel to
under 18`s which really does tempt fate and raises the prospect of a
generation of Public Transport users who really DO believe that Lunch is
Free.
With new vehicle orders due to be reined in and the term Refurbishment now
starting to occur in conversation with more regularity it is surely going to
be a very interesting time in old London Town.
It will be doubly interesting to see just how Refurbishable the Low Floor
generation of vehicle are in comparison to Mssrs Park Royal Vehicles
products especially in cost benefit terms.
I seem to recall P Hendy saying he could get 3 Euro 2 RM`s for the price of
a new Low Floor vehicle so one wonders how many Volvo/Scania/Mercedes units
he will get refurbed for the price of a new Citaro G..?