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[email protected] November 24th 05 08:34 AM

Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals
 

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This is all on map CS from Clapham Junction you can travel on
map WR to Waterloo, or possibly via Olympia to Paddington (if that is
possible without falling foul of the doubling back rule) You'd have to
be very brave to try that one (although it does extend the usefulness
of your season ticket considerably) and if you do I suggest that you
carry printouts of the relevant sections and maps from the routing
guide.


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To get to Paddington from Olympia you'd have to double back from
Reading. Changing at Acton Town would be OK but no trains (from
Olympia) stop there.


oops - the ticket is valid to Reading anyway, so it's not doubling
back, it's a new journey??


asdf November 24th 05 01:17 PM

Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals
 
On 24 Nov 2005 01:34:04 -0800, wrote:


wrote:
wrote:
snip
This is all on map CS from Clapham Junction you can travel on
map WR to Waterloo, or possibly via Olympia to Paddington (if that is
possible without falling foul of the doubling back rule)


To get to Paddington from Olympia you'd have to double back from
Reading. Changing at Acton Town would be OK but no trains (from
Olympia) stop there.


oops - the ticket is valid to Reading anyway, so it's not doubling
back, it's a new journey??


Correct - as it's a season, you can use it for a journey from
Kensington Olympia to Reading (intermediate stations on a Permitted
Route), and then a "separate" journey from Reading to Paddington
(intermediate stations on a different Permitted Route). It wouldn't be
possible on a single without doubling back though, unless VXC ever
decide to stop at Acton Main Line :)

asdf November 24th 05 01:28 PM

Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:26:38 GMT, Phil Clark
wrote:

Try http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html and
http://www.atoc.org/rsp/Routeing%20Guide/enrg.htm


Thanks. Clive's site seems to add Blackfriars to the list of possible
London termini; the Atoc site I'm not quite sure I understand... but I
will persevere!


That's odd; Blackfriars isn't shown on any of the relevant maps. For
some reason CORE is adding a superfluous cross-London transfer to
Blackfriars onto the end of each route. (The ticket is probably not
even valid for cross-London transfer.)

London Bridge isn't shown either, but CORE finds routes to it (via
Waterloo East); maybe it's recently been removed from map WR?

Jonathan Morton November 24th 05 09:52 PM

Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals
 
"asdf" wrote in message
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That's odd; Blackfriars isn't shown on any of the relevant maps. For
some reason CORE is adding a superfluous cross-London transfer to
Blackfriars onto the end of each route. (The ticket is probably not
even valid for cross-London transfer.)

London Bridge isn't shown either, but CORE finds routes to it (via
Waterloo East); maybe it's recently been removed from map WR?


It's very odd that Blackfriars and the others aren't on the maps for the
South-western main line - it's clearly a reasonable route to get to the City
by changing at Wimbledon and going to Blackriars. I can't believe this would
be challenged.

Regards

Jonathan



Phil Clark December 6th 05 07:16 PM

Routing enquiry - Fleet to London Terminals
 
On 23 Nov 2005 15:59:06 -0800, wrote:

Thanks everyone who responded by the way - very helpful.

Map CS (You can get it by clicking on download all maps on the maps
page, but be warned it is a hefty pdf) in combination with Map WR
basically seems to be there to allow you to go from Farnborough to
Reading via Wokingham and thence *via Slough* to Paddington or
Waterloo via Olympia and Clapham Junction.


Surely going all the way to Reading would involve doubling back?
Shouldn't I change at Wokingham.

Mind you, it's a bit of a roundabout route to get to Reading from
Fleet, I imagine I'd usually prefer to pay and go via Basingstoke.
However, this implies that if I travel on the Great Western line I can
rely on my season ticket from Paddington to Reading.

It also seems to allow a ridiculous route from Farnborough to Guildford
and on to Redhill via the North Downs then through Croydon and
Streatham (since these are routing groups I assume that routes via
either Selhurst or Gipsy Hill to Balham are valid) to Clapham
Junction. This is all on map CS


This isn't quite as daft as it sounds - it just allows travel on the
same FGW Link that I can catch north towards Reading from Farnboro
North. It usefully gives me a route to Guildford for free, plus
Croydon and quite a bit of travel in S London, again potentially
useful. What about the other route from Croydon, to L Bridge via
Sydenham?

from Clapham Junction you can travel on
map WR to Waterloo, or possibly via Olympia to Paddington (if that is
possible without falling foul of the doubling back rule) You'd have to
be very brave to try that one (although it does extend the usefulness
of your season ticket considerably) and if you do I suggest that you
carry printouts of the relevant sections and maps from the routing
guide.


Others have suggested it's perfectly valid. I think I need to print
off the maps and carry them around with me, at least when I'm trying
out some of the more unusual routes - as well as get some timetables
for the FGW Reading/Gatwick line.

Cheers,

Phil


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