Rick Hughes wrote:
"Andy" wrote in
:

Im glad there are enough of us here to be honest enough to say what
99% are actually thinking, in that this guy got exactly what he
deserved.

Translation: "I have no compassion at all within me, but it's OK
because neither have lots of others."

Read the post

Our thoughts should be with the train driver and the network
rail bods who have to pick bits of this guy up spread over a large
area.

Translation: "Naturally, some faux concern for innocent parties always
goes down well, so I'll stick a bit in at this point."


So you don't agree,
Im sure the 1% of you sandal wearing, pullover knitting,
yoghart eating lefties will be outraged at this

Translation: "I'd like to take this opportunity to gratuitously abuse
anyone who doesn't share my opinions."

To near the truth!!

but sorry, youre
obviously confusing me with someone who actually cares what you
think.

Glad to hear it, otherwise I would have been reluctant to say that I
think you still have some distance to go before reaching the level of
human being.


Does this mean up to your level?

Rick. (Occasional yoghurt-eater)



--
JFG

JFGrieve wrote:
Rick Hughes wrote:
"Andy" wrote in
:

Im glad there are enough of us here to be honest enough to say what
99% are actually thinking, in that this guy got exactly what he
deserved.

Translation: "I have no compassion at all within me, but it's OK
because neither have lots of others."

Read the post

Our thoughts should be with the train driver and the network
rail bods who have to pick bits of this guy up spread over a large
area.

Translation: "Naturally, some faux concern for innocent parties always
goes down well, so I'll stick a bit in at this point."


So you don't agree,
Im sure the 1% of you sandal wearing, pullover knitting,
yoghart eating lefties will be outraged at this

Translation: "I'd like to take this opportunity to gratuitously abuse
anyone who doesn't share my opinions."

To near the truth!!

but sorry, youre
obviously confusing me with someone who actually cares what you
think.

Glad to hear it, otherwise I would have been reluctant to say that I
think you still have some distance to go before reaching the level of
human being.


Does this mean up to your level?

Rick. (Occasional yoghurt-eater)


Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but that
doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more than people
who cross roads.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years (eg
the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for anyone
interested in any other industry).

So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be taken
seriously".

But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry which
involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful about
people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it happens in
other industries.

"MIG" wrote in message
oups.com...

JFGrieve wrote:
Rick Hughes wrote:
"Andy" wrote in
:

Im glad there are enough of us here to be honest enough to say what
99% are actually thinking, in that this guy got exactly what he
deserved.

Translation: "I have no compassion at all within me, but it's OK
because neither have lots of others."

Read the post

Our thoughts should be with the train driver and the network
rail bods who have to pick bits of this guy up spread over a large
area.

Translation: "Naturally, some faux concern for innocent parties always
goes down well, so I'll stick a bit in at this point."


So you don't agree,
Im sure the 1% of you sandal wearing, pullover knitting,
yoghart eating lefties will be outraged at this

Translation: "I'd like to take this opportunity to gratuitously abuse
anyone who doesn't share my opinions."

To near the truth!!

but sorry, youre
obviously confusing me with someone who actually cares what you
think.

Glad to hear it, otherwise I would have been reluctant to say that I
think you still have some distance to go before reaching the level of
human being.


Does this mean up to your level?

Rick. (Occasional yoghurt-eater)


Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

No one has been punished in that way for that crime, in fact very few have
been caught.


People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but that
doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more than people
who cross roads.

But standing in front of a fast moving train is an effective means of
getting killed. Two paces to the side of the track would have meant staying
alive.


People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years (eg
the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for anyone
interested in any other industry).

So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be taken
seriously".

What a perverse view, except for the point about takingt trains seriously.


But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry which
involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful about
people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it happens in
other industries.

No one is "gleeful" that someone has got himself killed. If someone is
sufficiently stupid to stand in front of a fast moviing train, what should
anyone else have sympathy for him?

Brimstone wrote
No one is "gleeful" that someone has got himself killed.
JFG wrote
Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


Are the above statements really grounded in fact? - look at the
excerpts below from this email thread, it is hard to escape the general
view that due justice has been served in a way that many find
satisfying at least. The comments do range from at best 'hard hearted'
to at worst 'celebratory'.

1. we should perhaps thanks the HEX for contributing to crime
prevention.

2.He was knowingly and willingly in the very wrong place at a very
wrong time.....and paid the price

3. HIS actions cost him HIS life. Regardless of date, this guy was a
bloody idiot. If ....... i have to say 'i feel so sorry for him and
maybe it wasn't his FAULT and he was only 17 '..... then sorry, i
don't buy that.

4. this guy got exactly what he deserved.

5. Why have compassion for someone who deliberately puts himself in
harm's way

6. Why have compassion for someone so reckless with his own well being?


7. If someone is sufficiently stupid to stand in front of a fast
moviing train, what should anyone else have sympathy for him?

8. So it's one less hooded chav mugger to worry about

"Simon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Brimstone wrote
No one is "gleeful" that someone has got himself killed.
JFG wrote
Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


Are the above statements really grounded in fact? - look at the
excerpts below from this email thread, it is hard to escape the general
view that due justice has been served in a way that many find
satisfying at least. The comments do range from at best 'hard hearted'
to at worst 'celebratory'.

1. we should perhaps thanks the HEX for contributing to crime
prevention.

2.He was knowingly and willingly in the very wrong place at a very
wrong time.....and paid the price

3. HIS actions cost him HIS life. Regardless of date, this guy was a
bloody idiot. If ....... i have to say 'i feel so sorry for him and
maybe it wasn't his FAULT and he was only 17 '..... then sorry, i
don't buy that.

4. this guy got exactly what he deserved.

5. Why have compassion for someone who deliberately puts himself in
harm's way

6. Why have compassion for someone so reckless with his own well being?


7. If someone is sufficiently stupid to stand in front of a fast
moviing train, what should anyone else have sympathy for him?

8. So it's one less hooded chav mugger to worry about

Your views are so childish it's unbelievable. They don't stretch to beyond
the visible. You can't understand what's going on in other people's heads,
so you analyse the situation entirely on what you see.

I just hope you never need compassion from others, because if they think
like you, you're screwed.

"Simon" wrote in message ups.com...
Brimstone wrote
No one is "gleeful" that someone has got himself killed.
JFG wrote
Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


Are the above statements really grounded in fact? - look at the
excerpts below from this email thread, it is hard to escape the general
view that due justice has been served in a way that many find
satisfying at least. The comments do range from at best 'hard hearted'
to at worst 'celebratory'.

1. we should perhaps thanks the HEX for contributing to crime
prevention.

2.He was knowingly and willingly in the very wrong place at a very
wrong time.....and paid the price

3. HIS actions cost him HIS life. Regardless of date, this guy was a
bloody idiot. If ....... i have to say 'i feel so sorry for him and
maybe it wasn't his FAULT and he was only 17 '..... then sorry, i
don't buy that.

4. this guy got exactly what he deserved.

5. Why have compassion for someone who deliberately puts himself in
harm's way

6. Why have compassion for someone so reckless with his own well being?


7. If someone is sufficiently stupid to stand in front of a fast
moviing train, what should anyone else have sympathy for him?

8. So it's one less hooded chav mugger to worry about

maybe it's not a view that ' justice has been served that many find satisfying at least ' and i'm certainly not celebrating this
person's death under a train. I just feel that he was aware of his dangerous surroundings , he knew he shouldn't have been there
and the consequences of being at said place at said time cost him his life. Why should i pity him for his stupidity ?
No celebration that he's dead, just stating my observations. If he had constantly put a loaded gun in his mouth with the safety
catch off for a game or a laugh and it accidentally went off, would you be so condemning of my thoughts or would you say , '
bloody fool , why put a loaded gun in your mouth...how stupid...didn't he know the danger , i've no sympathy for such a lack of
regard' etc etc etc Well whats the difference between the gun/mouth thing or playing on a busy railway ?

MIG wrote:
JFGrieve wrote:
Rick Hughes wrote:
"Andy" wrote in
:

Im glad there are enough of us here to be honest enough to say what
99% are actually thinking, in that this guy got exactly what he
deserved.

Translation: "I have no compassion at all within me, but it's OK
because neither have lots of others."

Read the post

Our thoughts should be with the train driver and the network
rail bods who have to pick bits of this guy up spread over a large
area.

Translation: "Naturally, some faux concern for innocent parties
always goes down well, so I'll stick a bit in at this point."


So you don't agree,
Im sure the 1% of you sandal wearing, pullover knitting,
yoghart eating lefties will be outraged at this

Translation: "I'd like to take this opportunity to gratuitously
abuse anyone who doesn't share my opinions."

To near the truth!!

but sorry, youre
obviously confusing me with someone who actually cares what you
think.

Glad to hear it, otherwise I would have been reluctant to say that I
think you still have some distance to go before reaching the level
of human being.


Does this mean up to your level?

Rick. (Occasional yoghurt-eater)


Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house whose side
wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month might disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more than
people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be clear in
most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be
taken seriously".

Who said that?

But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry which
involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful about
people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it happens in
other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.



--
JFG

"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

--
*** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ ***
Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk)
MSN: richmackin-at-hotmail-dot-com

In message
"Rich Mackin" wrote:

"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.


Petrol heads, Twitchers, nerds, geeks and, of course, the all-purpose anorak.

Just about any hobby will have a derogatory term for the more extreme
practioners.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Rich Mackin wrote:
"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).
Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

No Dentressangle every time..