MIG wrote:
JFGrieve wrote:
Rick Hughes wrote:
"Andy" wrote in
:

Im glad there are enough of us here to be honest enough to say what
99% are actually thinking, in that this guy got exactly what he
deserved.

Translation: "I have no compassion at all within me, but it's OK
because neither have lots of others."

Read the post

Our thoughts should be with the train driver and the network
rail bods who have to pick bits of this guy up spread over a large
area.

Translation: "Naturally, some faux concern for innocent parties
always goes down well, so I'll stick a bit in at this point."


So you don't agree,
Im sure the 1% of you sandal wearing, pullover knitting,
yoghart eating lefties will be outraged at this

Translation: "I'd like to take this opportunity to gratuitously
abuse anyone who doesn't share my opinions."

To near the truth!!

but sorry, youre
obviously confusing me with someone who actually cares what you
think.

Glad to hear it, otherwise I would have been reluctant to say that I
think you still have some distance to go before reaching the level
of human being.


Does this mean up to your level?

Rick. (Occasional yoghurt-eater)


Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house whose side
wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month might disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more than
people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be clear in
most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be
taken seriously".

Who said that?

But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry which
involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful about
people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it happens in
other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.



--
JFG

"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

--
*** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ ***
Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk)
MSN: richmackin-at-hotmail-dot-com

In message
"Rich Mackin" wrote:

"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.


Petrol heads, Twitchers, nerds, geeks and, of course, the all-purpose anorak.

Just about any hobby will have a derogatory term for the more extreme
practioners.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Rich Mackin wrote:
"JFGrieve" wrote in message
...
MIG wrote:
People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).
Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

No Dentressangle every time..

In uk.railway ZB wrote:
Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

No Dentressangle every time..

Willi Betz!

pete
--
"there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas" - HMHB.

"Pete Fenelon" wrote in message
...
In uk.railway ZB wrote:
Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that
these
people were enthusiasts.

Lorries as well, especially Eddie Stobart ones.

No Dentressangle every time..

Willi Betz!

How about http://www.lorryspotting.com/

sister site to http://www.railenthusiast.co.uk/

They are only(?) £25 and £40 per annum... Eeeekk

KW

Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house whose side
wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month might disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more than
people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be clear in
most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that these
people were enthusiasts.


Oh dear, been away too long to catch up, but my point was that railway
"enthusiasts" are so used to being ridiculed that this may be why they
feel satisfaction when their industry of interest kills someone who
didn't take it seriously enough. I don't think that the people killed
were enthusiasts.



So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be
taken seriously".

Who said that?

I suggested that there was a tendency to think it, not that someone
said it.


But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry which
involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful about
people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it happens in
other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


"Simon" seems to have done that admirably already.

MIG wrote:
Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house whose
side wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month might
disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more
than people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be
clear in most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that
these people were enthusiasts.


Oh dear, been away too long to catch up, but my point was that railway
"enthusiasts" are so used to being ridiculed that this may be why they
feel satisfaction when their industry of interest kills someone who
didn't take it seriously enough.

Take what seriously?

I don't think that the people killed
were enthusiasts.

We don't know what they're enthusiastic about, if anything.




So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be
taken seriously".

Who said that?

I suggested that there was a tendency to think it, not that someone
said it.

The only person likely to think that seems to be you.



But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry
which involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful
about people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it
happens in other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


"Simon" seems to have done that admirably already.

If you think that then you really do have problems with comprehension.

Brimstone wrote:
MIG wrote:
Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house whose
side wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month might
disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more
than people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be
clear in most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for years
(eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no equivalent for
anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that
these people were enthusiasts.


Oh dear, been away too long to catch up, but my point was that railway
"enthusiasts" are so used to being ridiculed that this may be why they
feel satisfaction when their industry of interest kills someone who
didn't take it seriously enough.

Take what seriously?


The railway industry. What else was I talking about?



I don't think that the people killed
were enthusiasts.

We don't know what they're enthusiastic about, if anything.


Of course we don't. A previous poster misunderstood me to be
suggesting that they were on the railway because they were railway
enthusiasts. I certainly wasn't suggesting that. I was referring to
railway enthusiasts' reaction to people getting killed.






So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard; we've
managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought to be
taken seriously".

Who said that?

I suggested that there was a tendency to think it, not that someone
said it.

The only person likely to think that seems to be you.


It's a possible explanation for the evidence in the form of the kind of
messages that get posted here every time someone is killed on the
railway. Even if no one thinks it, it's still a possible explanation.





But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry
which involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful
about people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it
happens in other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


"Simon" seems to have done that admirably already.

If you think that then you really do have problems with comprehension.


I certainly don't comprehend your comment. Previous posters suggested
that there had been nothing gleeful. "Simon" then challenged this by
quoting many comments from other postings that could be said to be
gleeful or at least satisfied by the fact that these people had been
killed on the railway. There is no need for me to reproduce the same
list of quotes.

MIG wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
MIG wrote:
Graffiti and other vandalisms are crimes and generally despicable.
They are not capital offences.

Nobody ever said that they were, although the owner of a house
whose side wall has been 'tagged' three times in the last month
might disagree.

People trespassing on railway lines know that there are risks, but
that doesn't mean that they intend (or deserve) to die, any more
than people who cross roads.

Quite true & nobody here said that they should be, buts lets be
clear in most cases they brought the problems on thereselves.

People who are interested in railways have been ridiculed for
years (eg the term "trainspotter", for which there is no
equivalent for anyone interested in any other industry).

Well there is 'planespotters' but there has been no suggestion that
these people were enthusiasts.


Oh dear, been away too long to catch up, but my point was that
railway "enthusiasts" are so used to being ridiculed that this may
be why they feel satisfaction when their industry of interest kills
someone who didn't take it seriously enough.

Take what seriously?


The railway industry. What else was I talking about?

Do you mean "the industry" or the equipment it uses?




I don't think that the people killed
were enthusiasts.

We don't know what they're enthusiastic about, if anything.


Of course we don't. A previous poster misunderstood me to be
suggesting that they were on the railway because they were railway
enthusiasts. I certainly wasn't suggesting that. I was referring to
railway enthusiasts' reaction to people getting killed.

Like other people, there will be a variety of reactions and views. I suspect
there are many with no interest in the railways at all whose basic attitde
will be "tough ****, shouldn't have been there".

So we have a tendency to think "hey, our trains are well 'ard;
we've managed to kill another one; that'll show 'em that we ought
to be taken seriously".

Who said that?

I suggested that there was a tendency to think it, not that someone
said it.

The only person likely to think that seems to be you.


It's a possible explanation for the evidence in the form of the kind
of messages that get posted here every time someone is killed on the
railway. Even if no one thinks it, it's still a possible explanation.

If something can be imagined then it's possible which significiantly
different to the likelihood of it happening.

But I don't see why our pride in being interested in an industry
which involves dangerous machinery should make us quite so gleeful
about people getting killed by that machinery. I don't think it
happens in other industries.

Please show me a gleeful post in this thread.


"Simon" seems to have done that admirably already.

If you think that then you really do have problems with
comprehension.


I certainly don't comprehend your comment. Previous posters suggested
that there had been nothing gleeful. "Simon" then challenged this by
quoting many comments from other postings that could be said to be
gleeful or at least satisfied by the fact that these people had been
killed on the railway. There is no need for me to reproduce the same
list of quotes.

Sorry I misread you earlier post - ""Simon" seems to have done that
admirably already."