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[email protected] May 24th 06 01:49 AM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 

wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

--
gordon


There are loads of reversing points on the District, most of which are
only used in emergencies but are still operational.
From east to west we have:

Hornchurch, Dagenham East, Upney/Barking (via sidings), East Ham,
Plaistow, Bromley-by-Bow, Whitechapel, Aldgate East, Tower Hill (east
to west only), Mansion House (e-w only), Embankment, South Kensington,
Earl's Court, West Kensington, Barons Court/Hammersmith (via siding),
Gunnersbury, Parsons Green, Putney Bridge (bay platform for C stocks or
the mainline shunt over the bridge for D stocks), East Putney and
Wimbledon Park.

I think that's them all! Many of these are not shown on the manual D
stock blinds, so the nearest destination should be shown with regular
announcements made. The refurbished D stocks with the digital
destination blinds can show any station as the destination.

Regarding the Jubilee, the other 'unusual' reversing points are
Finchley Road, Green Park (using the disused platforms at Charing
Cross), Waterloo, London Bridge, Canary Wharf and West Ham (reversing
via the depot or main line).


Robin Mayes May 24th 06 06:52 AM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
wrote:

Regarding the Jubilee, the other 'unusual' reversing points are
Finchley Road, Green Park (using the disused platforms at Charing
Cross), Waterloo, London Bridge, Canary Wharf and West Ham (reversing
via the depot or main line).


West Hampstead has a reversing siding like Willesden Green.

Richard J. May 24th 06 09:22 AM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
wrote:
wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations
temporarily becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering
work) but which are virtually never used as potential terminal
points at other times even when the timetabled service falls apart
for whatever reason? Do train and platform destination signs just
show "Special" or something similar when a really oddball terminal
point comes briefly into operation?

--
gordon


There are loads of reversing points on the District, most of which
are only used in emergencies but are still operational.
From east to west we have:

Hornchurch, Dagenham East, Upney/Barking (via sidings), East Ham,
Plaistow, Bromley-by-Bow, Whitechapel, Aldgate East, Tower Hill
(east to west only), Mansion House (e-w only), Embankment, South
Kensington, Earl's Court, West Kensington, Barons Court/Hammersmith
(via siding), Gunnersbury, Parsons Green, Putney Bridge (bay
platform for C stocks or the mainline shunt over the bridge for D
stocks), East Putney and Wimbledon Park.

I think that's them all!


Plus Acton Town and Ealing Common.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

TKD May 24th 06 12:59 PM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 

wrote in message
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On 21 May 2006 13:55:08 -0700, wrote:

Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?


East Ham has been used as the eastern terminus of the District for the
last three weekends. The few trains that I saw all showed East Ham.


When there has been strike action it often becomes the western terminus.



Andrew May 24th 06 08:01 PM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 

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oups.com...
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

--
gordon


I've known Holborn to be used as an emergency reversing point (WB - EB) on
the central line. The reversing siding is actually at the disused British
Museum station to the west of Holborn.

Also Bethnal Green has a crossover which has been used for trains
terminating there during engineering works.



Andrew



Colin Rosenstiel May 25th 06 01:18 AM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
In article . com,
() wrote:

There are loads of reversing points on the District, most of which are
only used in emergencies but are still operational.
From east to west we have:

Hornchurch, Dagenham East, Upney/Barking (via sidings), East Ham,
Plaistow, Bromley-by-Bow, Whitechapel, Aldgate East, Tower Hill (east
to west only), Mansion House (e-w only), Embankment, South Kensington,
Earl's Court, West Kensington, Barons Court/Hammersmith (via siding),
Gunnersbury, Parsons Green, Putney Bridge (bay platform for C stocks
or the mainline shunt over the bridge for D stocks), East Putney and
Wimbledon Park.


There used to be a crossover North of East Putney station for reversing
from the North. I thought it was removed some years ago though.

Regarding the Jubilee, the other 'unusual' reversing points are
Finchley Road, Green Park (using the disused platforms at Charing
Cross), Waterloo, London Bridge, Canary Wharf and West Ham (reversing
via the depot or main line).


Green Park seems to be a regular reversing point, with trains running on
empty to Charing Cross. I've quite often encountered "Terminates here"
trains there. The track towards Charing Cross is incredibly straight so
you can see the empty trains for most of their journeys to Charing Cross
from the Green Park platform.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mizter T May 29th 06 04:16 PM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
MIG wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

MIG wrote:
wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations
temporarily becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering
work) but which are virtually never used as potential terminal
points at other times even when the timetabled service falls apart
for whatever reason? Do train and platform destination signs just
show "Special" or something similar when a really oddball terminal
point comes briefly into operation?


Neasden on the Jubilee when there were works at Wembley Park. There
was no problem with the display, but the word "Neasden" had to be
recorded separately and inserted in the announcements. But it was
recorded at a completely different volume and style, and came out
as, eg "This is Canary Wharf. Change here for ... etc. This train
terminates at NEEEEAS DEN." Maybe it was to indicate incredulity
that trains were terminating there.


The Jubilee Line uses two announcers. They improved the announcements
about intermediate stations, but retained the original destination
announcements which always sound like someone speaking to
non-English-speaking 5-year-olds. Normally, it's most noticeable with
"WILLesden GrEEEn". Your Neasden announcement was probably one of the
original set, not one added for a non-standard destination.



It's possible, but the only original desinations I remember were
Stratford, North Greenwich, Willesden Green, Wembley Park and Stanmore.
I think they only used Neasden as a destination during the works.
Could be wrong.



Bear in mind that the on-train announcements now happen at every
station, so therefore Neasden would have to be in the announcement
library (or whatever it's called). So I suspect Richard J's right and
it's just a slightly bizarrely voiced announcement. You'll have to get
on a train to Neasden to find out for sure though!

snob mode
The DLR announcement for 'Royal Victoria' sounds like it was done by
the voice-over equivalent of Victoria Beckham, i.e. a common Essex
slapper.
/snob mode


Tom Anderson May 29th 06 05:36 PM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Mizter T wrote:

snob mode
The DLR announcement for 'Royal Victoria' sounds like it was done by
the voice-over equivalent of Victoria Beckham, i.e. a common Essex
slapper.
/snob mode


Victoria Beckham's from Hertfordshire.

tom

--
coincidences, body modification, hungarian voice sebestyen marta, **

Mizter T May 29th 06 05:48 PM

Unusual terminal points on LU
 
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Mizter T wrote:

snob mode
The DLR announcement for 'Royal Victoria' sounds like it was done by
the voice-over equivalent of Victoria Beckham, i.e. a common Essex
slapper.
/snob mode


Victoria Beckham's from Hertfordshire.

tom

--
coincidences, body modification, hungarian voice sebestyen marta, **



I think that now drags my total score with regards to contributions to
the sum of human knowledge even further into the red!



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