Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

--
gordon

wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

The other week, the Piccadilly was reversing at Hounslow Central during
engineering work at Heathrow. This is a very rare reverse in the normal
scheme of things (in 4 years, I've never reversed there anyway).

The trains showed Hounslow Central though as 73TS is capable of showing
every station on the Piccadilly line (even those you can't reverse at),
including Adlwych!

wrote:

Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

Hornchurch on the District is occasionally used in this fashion. I believe
the train and platform destination indicators have continued to show
Upminster (from the west), backed up by PA announcements to change at
Hornchurch for alternative transport.

IIRC, during a strike day several years ago, Hornchurch became a terminal
point from the *east* - a truly token service!

Chris

"Chris Read" wrote
Hornchurch on the District is occasionally used in this fashion. I believe
the train and platform destination indicators have continued to show
Upminster (from the west), backed up by PA announcements to change at
Hornchurch for alternative transport.

IIRC, during a strike day several years ago, Hornchurch became a terminal
point from the *east* - a truly token service!

Is the crossover at Hornchurch still operational? I'm interested because
it's one of a small(ish) number of crossovers on LU that I haven't managed
to traverse. I seem to recall that it was refused for a railtour organised
by the SEG, but that was several years ago.

wrote:

Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

Liverpool St Inner rail (westbound) on the Circle during weekend engineering
work for an example.

As the trains are described as Circles to keep the signal computers happy,
the train describer would say "Circle Line" but gets turned off as to not
confuse people who have somehow managed to miss the several dozen notices,
public address announcements and staff advising them there is no train
service.

wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?



Neasden on the Jubilee when there were works at Wembley Park. There
was no problem with the display, but the word "Neasden" had to be
recorded separately and inserted in the announcements. But it was
recorded at a completely different volume and style, and came out as,
eg "This is Canary Wharf. Change here for ... etc. This train
terminates at NEEEEAS DEN." Maybe it was to indicate incredulity that
trains were terminating there.

MIG wrote:
wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations
temporarily becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering
work) but which are virtually never used as potential terminal
points at other times even when the timetabled service falls apart
for whatever reason? Do train and platform destination signs just
show "Special" or something similar when a really oddball terminal
point comes briefly into operation?

Neasden on the Jubilee when there were works at Wembley Park. There
was no problem with the display, but the word "Neasden" had to be
recorded separately and inserted in the announcements. But it was
recorded at a completely different volume and style, and came out
as, eg "This is Canary Wharf. Change here for ... etc. This train
terminates at NEEEEAS DEN." Maybe it was to indicate incredulity
that trains were terminating there.

The Jubilee Line uses two announcers. They improved the announcements
about intermediate stations, but retained the original destination
announcements which always sound like someone speaking to
non-English-speaking 5-year-olds. Normally, it's most noticeable with
"WILLesden GrEEEn". Your Neasden announcement was probably one of the
original set, not one added for a non-standard destination.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:

MIG wrote:
wrote:
Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations
temporarily becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering
work) but which are virtually never used as potential terminal
points at other times even when the timetabled service falls apart
for whatever reason? Do train and platform destination signs just
show "Special" or something similar when a really oddball terminal
point comes briefly into operation?

Neasden on the Jubilee when there were works at Wembley Park. There
was no problem with the display, but the word "Neasden" had to be
recorded separately and inserted in the announcements. But it was
recorded at a completely different volume and style, and came out
as, eg "This is Canary Wharf. Change here for ... etc. This train
terminates at NEEEEAS DEN." Maybe it was to indicate incredulity
that trains were terminating there.

The Jubilee Line uses two announcers. They improved the announcements
about intermediate stations, but retained the original destination
announcements which always sound like someone speaking to
non-English-speaking 5-year-olds. Normally, it's most noticeable with
"WILLesden GrEEEn". Your Neasden announcement was probably one of the
original set, not one added for a non-standard destination.


It's possible, but the only original desinations I remember were
Stratford, North Greenwich, Willesden Green, Wembley Park and Stanmore.
I think they only used Neasden as a destination during the works.
Could be wrong.

On 21 May 2006 13:55:08 -0700, wrote:

Have there been any examples in recent times of LU stations temporarily
becoming terminal points (e.g. because of engineering work) but which
are virtually never used as potential terminal points at other times
even when the timetabled service falls apart for whatever reason? Do
train and platform destination signs just show "Special" or something
similar when a really oddball terminal point comes briefly into
operation?

East Ham has been used as the eastern terminus of the District for the
last three weekends. The few trains that I saw all showed East Ham.

wrote:

East Ham has been used as the eastern terminus of the District for the
last three weekends. The few trains that I saw all showed East Ham.


Curiously the National Rail site departure board listing for Richmond
showed the destination of these trains incorrectly both factually and
in terms of spelling as "Plastow".

--
Gordon