On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:


Richard M Willis wrote:
"Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS" wrote in message

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH Midlothian
(the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new region)?What happened to
those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Counties are a historical oddity. Just addressing an envelope to
..... Bristol BSx xxx is sufficient.

In fact, the conurbation of Bristol might spread across multiple
counties. I don't know.


Bristol was part in Gloucestershire and part in Somerset.

That applies to what is now Bristol but IIRC it was originally all on
the Gloucestershire side of the river, the south side (Bedminster and
Knowle ?) being part of the town/conurbation but not of the actual
city, being merely bits of Somerset.

This may
have been unique. It was certainly unusual. For a time it was in Avon.
Now Bristol seems to be a County.

It was previously (pre-*von) "City and County of" but IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Charles Ellson wrote:
On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:

IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components?

Adrian.

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Charles Ellson wrote:
On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:

IMU no local authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently
classified as a "county" for local government purposes, although
other bits of officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components?

The best measure is probably where they have their own Lords Lieutenant.
Bristol and the Isle of Wight do.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 30 Jun 2006 16:44:34 -0700, wrote:


Charles Ellson wrote:
On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:

IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components?

The only current mention of "county" seems to be in the name of their
HQ which seems to be basically a case of not "fixing" an established
address. It has actually got "subsidiary authorities" in the form of
town/community councils (which I'd forgotten about) but not in the
form which I had in mind of authorities which provide day-to-day
council services (e.g. roads, rubbish, welfare, etc.).
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"Charles Ellson" wrote
wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
wrote:
IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components?
The only current mention of "county" seems to be in the name of their
HQ which seems to be basically a case of not "fixing" an established
address. It has actually got "subsidiary authorities" in the form of
town/community councils (which I'd forgotten about) but not in the
form which I had in mind of authorities which provide day-to-day
council services (e.g. roads, rubbish, welfare, etc.).

I think some parish and district councillors might get upset at the
suggestion that their councils are in any way subsidiary to the council of
the county in which they are located. Although county, district and parish
councils (community councils in Wales) are sometimes described as 1st, 2nd
and 3rd tier authorities, they are independent in terms of their
decision-making and precept setting, not being answerable to the tier or
tiers above them.

"Charles Ellson" wrote
It [Bristol] was previously (pre-*von) "City and County of" but IMU no
local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.

Clive Feather pointed out in an earlier thread that some (all?) unitary
authorities are defined as counties in the statutory instruments covering
their creation, but I think you are correct if you mean that they are not
regarded as counties by most people - except perhaps for one or two special
cases (like Bristol?) Conversely, some counties (e.g. the metropolitan
counties) seem to exist even though they have no council.