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Would anyone happen to know from which platform number(s) trains depart
Waterloo for Guildford on a weekday?

TIA,

Ian

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"Ian F." wrote in message
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Would anyone happen to know from which platform number(s) trains depart
Waterloo for Guildford on a weekday?

I can't say that I've noticed any consistency.

It's the middle bit, from about 6 to 14.

tim


TIA,

Ian

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"tim" wrote in message
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It's the middle bit, from about 6 to 14.

Thanks Tim - noted.

Ian

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Ian F. wrote:
Would anyone happen to know from which platform number(s) trains depart
Waterloo for Guildford on a weekday?

When the "new" timetable was introduced in December 2004, the platform
allocations were as follows ;

1 - Suburban (Epsom, Chessington, Kingston, Shepperton, Hampton Ct,
Guildford)
2 - as 1
3 - as 1
4 - as 1
5 - spare
6 - West of England (Andover, Salisbury, Yeovil, Exeter, Bristol)
7 - as 6
8 - SW Main (Bourmemouth, Poole, Weymouth)
9 - as 8
10 - SW Outer Suburban (Basingstoke, Alton)
11 - as above
12 - SW Main (Southampton & Portsmouth via Eastleigh)
13 - as 12
14 - Portsmouth Direct (Guildford, Haslemere, Petersfield, Portsmouth)
15 - as 14
16 - Windsor/Hounslow via Twickenham
17 - Kingston via Twickenham
18 - Weybridge/Hounslow via Brentford
19 - Ascot & Reading.

Whether this has changed much since then, I can't comment, as I'm only
in London once or twice per month these days, and obviously, any major
disruption will result in the 'plan' being flushed down the nearest
toilet. The bit about Platform 5 being 'spare' is a bit strange, as at
least the 16h50 Waterloo - Yeovil left from there, and the Portsmouth
via Eastleigh train I caught last week left from Platform 9.

Hope this is of some use/interest anyway.

Matt
Southsea

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"M J Forbes" wrote in message
ups.com...

Whether this has changed much since then, I can't comment,

As it happens, my train was the 5.30pm to Portsmouth Harbour, which left
from platform 13.

I made it.

It was fine.

Thanks all.

Ian

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M J Forbes wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
Would anyone happen to know from which platform number(s) trains depart
Waterloo for Guildford on a weekday?

When the "new" timetable was introduced in December 2004, the platform
allocations were as follows ;

1 - Suburban (Epsom, Chessington, Kingston, Shepperton, Hampton Ct,
Guildford)
2 - as 1
3 - as 1
4 - as 1
5 - spare
6 - West of England (Andover, Salisbury, Yeovil, Exeter, Bristol)
7 - as 6
8 - SW Main (Bourmemouth, Poole, Weymouth)
9 - as 8
10 - SW Outer Suburban (Basingstoke, Alton)
11 - as above
12 - SW Main (Southampton & Portsmouth via Eastleigh)
13 - as 12
14 - Portsmouth Direct (Guildford, Haslemere, Petersfield, Portsmouth)
15 - as 14
16 - Windsor/Hounslow via Twickenham
17 - Kingston via Twickenham
18 - Weybridge/Hounslow via Brentford
19 - Ascot & Reading.

Whether this has changed much since then, I can't comment, as I'm only
in London once or twice per month these days, and obviously, any major
disruption will result in the 'plan' being flushed down the nearest
toilet. The bit about Platform 5 being 'spare' is a bit strange, as at
least the 16h50 Waterloo - Yeovil left from there, and the Portsmouth
via Eastleigh train I caught last week left from Platform 9.

Hope this is of some use/interest anyway.


That doesn't seem quite right. I am sure that platform 15 is (and has
been for years) used for trains in the Putney direction, not the
Portsmouth direction. Has the above got slightly out of line?

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That doesn't seem quite right. I am sure that platform 15 is (and has
been for years) used for trains in the Putney direction, not the
Portsmouth direction. Has the above got slightly out of line?

I was quoting from an internal document that was issued in the run-up
to the new timetable - I never actually bothered to check if it was
adhered to!

Cheers

Matt

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M J Forbes wrote:
That doesn't seem quite right. I am sure that platform 15 is (and has
been for years) used for trains in the Putney direction, not the
Portsmouth direction. Has the above got slightly out of line?

I was quoting from an internal document that was issued in the run-up
to the new timetable - I never actually bothered to check if it was
adhered to!



Since this I've checked a couple of times in passing, and 15 has not
been used for anything. But last time I came into it it was from the
"Windsor lines". This in conjunction with pre-timetable-change
memories of catching Reading trains there made me sure that it was used
for trains in that direction.

Platform 14 has been used for Alton and Basingstoke services today
(which I think is normal).

I suppose I could stand there till a train leaves from platform 15, but
that might seem obsessive. Somebody working for SWT probably knows.

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"MIG" wrote
I suppose I could stand there till a train leaves from platform 15, but
that might seem obsessive. Somebody working for SWT probably knows.

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe
for trains from Waterloo to Clapham Junction. The next one from platform 15
comes up as the 05.05 to Reading, headcode 1C05.

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John Salmon wrote:
"MIG" wrote
I suppose I could stand there till a train leaves from platform 15, but
that might seem obsessive. Somebody working for SWT probably knows.

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe
for trains from Waterloo to Clapham Junction. The next one from platform 15
comes up as the 05.05 to Reading, headcode 1C05.


(Mumble mumble old fashioned ways ...)

But I'm only getting a timeout from this link at various times today.

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John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

....but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

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gordon

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wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will work.

Peter Smyth

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Peter Smyth wrote:
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will work.

Peter Smyth


OK; got it now. But how do I tell it that I don't care where I go as
long as I start from platform 15 at Waterloo?

(I am getting ideas about a new series of one-off TV plays involving
journeys from platform 15, or perhaps a documentary about despatchers
and barrier staff, on the lines of Airport. "Platform 15" hmm.)

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Peter Smyth wrote:

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will
work.

Unless the application is ported to a server with a different IP address!
The point of a URL is that it does any redirection for you (provided that
it's been set up and is maintained correctly!).

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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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Peter Smyth wrote:

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will
work.

Unless the application is ported to a server with a different IP address!
The point of a URL is that it does any redirection for you (provided that
it's been set up and is maintained correctly!).

It doesn't seem to have another address though. If you go the the main
Traveline page at http://www.traveline.org.uk/index.htm and click on the
North East region, that is the address it takes you to.

Peter Smyth

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Peter Smyth wrote:
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will work.


Also it gives the booked departure rather than (understandably) the
actual platform which may be or (often) may not be the actual platform
on any given day.
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gordon

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Peter Smyth wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it will work.

Also it gives the "booked" departure platform i.e. the notionally
correct platform all other things being equal. However as this is the
UK the need for consistency of platforming even when things are running
fairly well appears to be subordinate to a host of other
considerations. What these are I've no idea.
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gordon

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In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually
responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it
will work.

What's traveline north east and cumbria got to do with Waterloo?

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Colin Rosenstiel

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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
wrote:
John Salmon wrote:

An easier way is to ask
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe

...but suffers from the slight downside of not actually
responding.

That's the danger of quoting IP numbers instead of URLs.

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it
will work.

What's traveline north east and cumbria got to do with Waterloo?

Despite the name, all of the regional traveline sites have rail data for the
whole country. However the North East site is the only one to show the
booked platform numbers as for some reason it was decided that it would be a
sensible use of public money to have a completely different interface to the
journey planner for each region.

Peter Smyth

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In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it
will work.

What's traveline north east and cumbria got to do with Waterloo?

Despite the name, all of the regional traveline sites have rail
data for the whole country. However the North East site is the only
one to show the booked platform numbers as for some reason it was
decided that it would be a sensible use of public money to have a
completely different interface to the journey planner for each
region.

Ah! I see now.

However, it seems I can go from Waterloo platform 4 to Putney. It takes
1 hour and 2 minutes though.

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Colin Rosenstiel

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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...

The IP numbers are not the problem, you need to use
http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery and then it
will work.

What's traveline north east and cumbria got to do with Waterloo?

Despite the name, all of the regional traveline sites have rail
data for the whole country. However the North East site is the only
one to show the booked platform numbers as for some reason it was
decided that it would be a sensible use of public money to have a
completely different interface to the journey planner for each
region.

Ah! I see now.

However, it seems I can go from Waterloo platform 4 to Putney. It takes
1 hour and 2 minutes though.


Just to add some new data, regarding the apparent intention of using
platform 15 in the Portsmouth direction, in recent days I have seen
platform 15 used for

0837 to Reading via Richmond
1752 to Weybridge via Brentford
0933 Kingston loop via Richmond
1822 to Weybridge via Brentford

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In article .com,
(MIG) wrote:

0933 Kingston loop via Richmond

I thought that route was called the Kingston Roundabout. Has it changed?

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Colin Rosenstiel

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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(MIG) wrote:

0933 Kingston loop via Richmond

I thought that route was called the Kingston Roundabout. Has it changed?


I don't know; I've never been any good at knowing the in-phrases and
tend to make up my own. Kingston Roundabout sounds a bit like a
junction on the A3.