On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:25:16 +0100, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

Could it be to let them get experience with the effects of pathing
the ELL on to the NLL, before it opens?
That's what I thought, but it doesn't seem to work - it must either run
to Dalston Kingsland or Dalston Junction; if it's the former, then
wouldn't they need to build expensive and temporary turnback
facilities? If it's the latter, then there seems to be little point
running a precursor when the proper ELL could be run through.

Not if they build the junction, with temporary buffer stops on the ELL
route, early, well before finishing the rest of the ELL stuff (in
particular, the link from Whitechapel to the viaduct).

The link from Whitechapel to the viaduct is part of ELLX Phase 1. The
connection from Dalston Junction to Canonbury, and through running
onto the NLL, is part of Phase 2, so it won't need to happen till much
later.

asdf wrote:
The link from Whitechapel to the viaduct is part of ELLX Phase 1. The
connection from Dalston Junction to Canonbury, and through running
onto the NLL, is part of Phase 2, so it won't need to happen till much
later.

TfL has requested that the ELLX project team look at (the
costs/benefits of?) connecting the extension at its northern extremity
to the NLL proper - indeed the RUS as published last week refers to
this. In addition, I read somewhere today (can't mind where - sorry)
that the new rolling stock is to be maintained at a new depot in the
New Cross Gate area (dunno where though) which would suggest that a
connection will be necessary to facilitate stock transfer.

THC

On 4 Sep 2006 11:22:04 -0700, THC wrote:

The link from Whitechapel to the viaduct is part of ELLX Phase 1. The
connection from Dalston Junction to Canonbury, and through running
onto the NLL, is part of Phase 2, so it won't need to happen till much
later.

TfL has requested that the ELLX project team look at (the
costs/benefits of?) connecting the extension at its northern extremity
to the NLL proper - indeed the RUS as published last week refers to
this. In addition, I read somewhere today (can't mind where - sorry)
that the new rolling stock is to be maintained at a new depot in the
New Cross Gate area (dunno where though) which would suggest that a
connection will be necessary to facilitate stock transfer.

In Phase 1, there will be a connection at New Cross Gate (for the West
Croydon - Dalston Junction and Crystal Palace - Dalston Junction
services), so there will be no need for a connection at the north end
just to transfer stock. (However, ISTM that it would make the service
a lot more useful at relatively little cost if through running to the
NLL was done as part of Phase 1.)

asdf wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 11:22:04 -0700, THC wrote:

The link from Whitechapel to the viaduct is part of ELLX Phase 1. The
connection from Dalston Junction to Canonbury, and through running
onto the NLL, is part of Phase 2, so it won't need to happen till much
later.
TfL has requested that the ELLX project team look at (the
costs/benefits of?) connecting the extension at its northern extremity
to the NLL proper - indeed the RUS as published last week refers to
this. In addition, I read somewhere today (can't mind where - sorry)
that the new rolling stock is to be maintained at a new depot in the
New Cross Gate area (dunno where though) which would suggest that a
connection will be necessary to facilitate stock transfer.

In Phase 1, there will be a connection at New Cross Gate (for the West
Croydon - Dalston Junction and Crystal Palace - Dalston Junction
services), so there will be no need for a connection at the north end
just to transfer stock. (However, ISTM that it would make the service
a lot more useful at relatively little cost if through running to the
NLL was done as part of Phase 1.)

Aha - today it looks like that part has been moved up to Phase 1. See my
post on "London Overground".

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London