I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:28 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote in :
I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=895

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:28 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.

New line diagrams are appearing on Piccadilly Line trains, showing the
Heathrow loop again (replacing the previous ones which only showed the
replacement bus service).

As expected, they also show Sudbury Hill as an interchange for Sudbury
Hill Harrow.

The only other change I could see is that Hounslow West carries a note
that it is "step-free for wheelchair users only". The mind boggles...

asdf wrote:

The only other change I could see is that Hounslow West carries a note
that it is "step-free for wheelchair users only". The mind boggles...

There is a wheelchair lift which cannot be used by a standing person. I
would imagine it used to be a luggage lift, from the days when Hounslow West
was the airport stop.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:57:44 +0100, asdf
wrote:

The only other change I could see is that Hounslow West carries a note
that it is "step-free for wheelchair users only". The mind boggles...

Not really that boggling - it has a stairlift fitted to the staircase so
someone in a wheelchair can reach the platforms. Other impaired people
or people with buggies would still have to use the stairs as there is no
lift.

This stairlift was fitted years ago - with funding from Hounslow Council
IIRC.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Roland Perry wrote:
I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.

I flew back from Bucharest on Sunday 17th and trains were running
around the loop then, as the press release said, but the diagrams in
the trains still showed the replacement bus service. London Transport
is usually pretty efficient about changing the in-train signage for
closures and openings, so this must have been a rare slip-up.

Patrick

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=895

Incidentally, how is the line going to look once T5 is opened? Is it
still going to be a loop, with three stations (T4, T5, T123 in that
order from central London), or is the line going to split after Hatton
Cross with some trains going to T4 and some to T123 & T5?

Patrick

wrote:

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=895

Incidentally, how is the line going to look once T5 is opened? Is it
still going to be a loop, with three stations (T4, T5, T123 in that
order from central London), or is the line going to split after Hatton
Cross with some trains going to T4 and some to T123 & T5?

Patrick

It's the latter AIUI - i.e. trains will run either:

(1) Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - Hatton Cross in the loop
or
(2) Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 where they'll terminate and then reverse.

The service will be split half/half. Those going to T123 will find
themselves there quicker on a train that goes to T5, as they won't have
to go round the loop. In practice I guess the time penalty for being on
a T4 loop train won't be that great so maybe just a few savvy
passengers with light or no luggage will hop between trains to take
advantage of this.

I've read that the T5 station will be staffed by BAA personnel, I guess
because they've entirely paid for the new Picadilly line link and
station to T5. I wonder how well they'll do in dispensing good advice
about public transport in London, and explaining the advantages of the
Oyster card and various other tickets and selling them to punters.

wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
I'm not sure when this started happening, but trains were running round
the loop again yesterday. Signs inside the train I was on had not yet
been updated.

I flew back from Bucharest on Sunday 17th and trains were running
around the loop then, as the press release said, but the diagrams in
the trains still showed the replacement bus service. London Transport
is usually pretty efficient about changing the in-train signage for
closures and openings, so this must have been a rare slip-up.

Patrick

I think you mean Bucuresti... ;-)

The Hatton Cross to T4 shuttle bus service "will continue for a week
after the Piccadilly line reopens to ensure passengers make a smooth
transition back to the Tube" says the TfL press release:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=895

wrote:

I flew back from Bucharest on Sunday 17th and trains were running
around the loop then, as the press release said, but the diagrams in
the trains still showed the replacement bus service. London Transport
is usually pretty efficient about changing the in-train signage for
closures and openings, so this must have been a rare slip-up.

They are certainly more efficient than you are at updating the name of the
organisation running the Tube ;-)