On 19 Oct 2006 12:13:24 -0700, "Andy" wrote:


wrote:
Andy wrote:
I believe that the current system
makes any Travelcard validity override the need to touch in, this may
change with the GBP4.00 charge being introduced.


What has happened for you is, as you have a 1-2 season ticket, you have
paid a 3-6 single, which is the maximum fare for any journey you could
possibly make (except north of moor park), which is in effect the same
as the £4 penalty for pre-pay users with no season ticket. Bear in
mind though that if you touch in but fail to touch out, lets say in
zone 3, with a 1-2 travel card, you'll likely be charged for the full
3-6 single rather than zone 3 only.

Yes, but I havn't paid anything until I touch out, unlike with PAYG. I
find the example of zone 3 a little confusing, if you are saying that
if I touch in Zone 3 and don't touch out, I'm likely to be charged for
a zone 3-6 single, then I'm not actually certain if this is the case, I
still think (but am not sure) that I might be charged for a zone 3-3
single with the system then assuming the travelcard is used to
complete. Of course, off-peak there is no difference in the two fares
and so making the comparison is impossible.
The only way I can see to test things off peak is to make a journey to
Zone A-D and see what the prepay deducts on the start of the return
journey (is it the minimum GBP1.00, or GBP1.30 (Zone A -3), 1.70(Zone B
- 3) or 2.00(Zone C or D - 3) to get me back to Zone2)

It will deduct £1 which is the deduction on entry that applies for all
journeys starting outside of Zone 1. This does not change with the new
rules if you are a Travelcard holder and using PAYG as an extension.
Any further deduction that may be required to pay for the full value of
your extension would be deducted on exit as this is the only point where
the full money due can be calculated given reference to your entry
point, your travelcard zonal validity, any PAYG deduction already made
and the remaining PAYG balance on the card.

Passengers using PAYG for their entire trip are subject to different
rules post 19/11/06. When I get round to doing my explanatory post
I'll cover the differences.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!