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Paul Scott October 23rd 06 12:34 PM

Stratford Regional
 
The link below provides recent (09/06) info about TfL current proposals for
Stratford Regional, the existing domestic station, following the forthcoming
DLR changes. There are now additional platforms for the NLL, major changes
to the subways, ticket halls, and an additional westbound Central line
platfom allowing exit on both sides of the train.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/initiative...ord/scheme.asp

Might be more logical to renumber the platform faces 1-19 though!

Hope it is of interest







Tristán White October 23rd 06 12:54 PM

Stratford Regional
 
"Paul Scott" wrote in
:

The link below provides recent (09/06) info about TfL current
proposals for Stratford Regional, the existing domestic station,
following the forthcoming DLR changes. There are now additional
platforms for the NLL, major changes to the subways, ticket halls, and
an additional westbound Central line platfom allowing exit on both
sides of the train.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/initiative...ord/scheme.asp

Might be more logical to renumber the platform faces 1-19 though!

Hope it is of interest



What ****es me off most is when you want to go from Stratford to Liverpool
Street and you have to choose between platforms 5 and 10 (so far apart).

I don't suppose there's any way that the new scheme will mean that all the
trains that do this last stop of the route will end up at the same
platform, is there?

MIG October 23rd 06 01:07 PM

Stratford Regional
 

Tristán White wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in
:

The link below provides recent (09/06) info about TfL current
proposals for Stratford Regional, the existing domestic station,
following the forthcoming DLR changes. There are now additional
platforms for the NLL, major changes to the subways, ticket halls, and
an additional westbound Central line platfom allowing exit on both
sides of the train.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/initiative...ord/scheme.asp

Might be more logical to renumber the platform faces 1-19 though!

Hope it is of interest



What ****es me off most is when you want to go from Stratford to Liverpool
Street and you have to choose between platforms 5 and 10 (so far apart).



I think it's 9, but it's the same island, far from platform 5.



I don't suppose there's any way that the new scheme will mean that all the
trains that do this last stop of the route will end up at the same
platform, is there?




Nah, just get the Central Line.

This reminds me of a time under FGE when I was getting a train the
other way which was shown on the screen as running from platform 10,
but when I got there I noticed that there were some of those yellow
things with red lights on the track just beyond the platform.

I went to platform 8 where some staff were, and they apparently had no
idea about it, although the blocks must have been there for several
hours (it was late morning). Next thing is they are announcing the
train as about to arrive at platform 10 (pretty sure it was a local
announcement).

Being dubious about this, I decided to head for the train arriving at
platform 8, but many people were still on platform 10. The
announcement of the platform change was made just as the train left,
with me on it and everyone else still on platform 10.

At a station where announcements are made claiming that trains are
running on tracks that have been physically blocked all morning, I
don't think there's much hope of ever knowing where to stand.


John Salmon October 23rd 06 01:42 PM

Stratford Regional
 

"Tristán White" wrote
I don't suppose there's any way that the new scheme will mean that all the
trains that do this last stop of the route will end up at the same
platform, is there?


Of course not. The last reorganisation of the tracks and platforms at
Stratford was done with the specific purpose of allowing trains on the main
lines to call there. Before that, "all the trains that do this last stop of
the route", as you put it, did call at the same platform, while others
(including some that now stop) went past on a non-platform line.



[email protected] October 23rd 06 01:47 PM

Stratford Regional
 
Paul Scott wrote:
The link below provides recent (09/06) info about TfL current proposals for
Stratford Regional, the existing domestic station, following the forthcoming
DLR changes. There are now additional platforms for the NLL, major changes
to the subways, ticket halls, and an additional westbound Central line
platfom allowing exit on both sides of the train.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/initiative...ord/scheme.asp

Might be more logical to renumber the platform faces 1-19 though!

Hope it is of interest


Thanks - it certainly is. Interesting to see the old subway will be
brought back into use and extended. I wonder if this will include
re-opening the original ticket hall - at least as an exit.


Roland Perry October 23rd 06 01:53 PM

Stratford Regional
 
In message , at 14:42:45 on
Mon, 23 Oct 2006, John Salmon remarked:
I don't suppose there's any way that the new scheme will mean that all the
trains that do this last stop of the route will end up at the same
platform, is there?


Of course not. The last reorganisation of the tracks and platforms at
Stratford was done with the specific purpose of allowing trains on the main
lines to call there. Before that, "all the trains that do this last stop of
the route", as you put it, did call at the same platform, while others
(including some that now stop) went past on a non-platform line.


Is this a classic case of "be careful what you wish for"?

"I want more trains to stop at Stratford"...

"... but I didn't expect that to be delivered by two platforms half a
mile apart".
--
Roland Perry

Great Eastern October 23rd 06 02:58 PM

Stratford Regional
 
Tristán White wrote:
What ****es me off most is when you want to go from Stratford to Liverpool
Street and you have to choose between platforms 5 and 10 (so far apart).



IIRC most trains to LST from Stratford which are on the Up Main (P9) are
Set Down Only. P5 is the Up Electric which are the ones you should board.

Tim Roll-Pickering October 23rd 06 05:35 PM

Stratford Regional
 
Paul Scott wrote:

and an additional westbound Central line
platfom allowing exit on both sides of the train.


Presumably the best way they can see to reduce overcrowding on the 3-5
island. On the NR side the platform space is scarily narrow and very
difficult to move along at peak hours.

Hopefully they'll also get round to putting in some decent information - on
platforms 6 & 8 there are no NR monitors at the east end, with the result
that many passengers for Forest Gate have no idea if the peak hour train
pulling in stops there. (On platform announcements are rare and have a
tendency to get drowned out by TfL no smoking announcements, whilst the on
train announcements at peak hours are invariably over before the passengers
can actually get on. And to confused matters further the change from a train
timetable to a "next train to" sheet means that only the latter part of the
alphabet is shown at that end.)



Tim Roll-Pickering October 23rd 06 05:39 PM

Stratford Regional
 
Tristán White wrote:

What ****es me off most is when you want to go from Stratford to Liverpool
Street and you have to choose between platforms 5 and 10 (so far apart).


Try the general mess there and beyond whereby stopping trains routinely
switch between the stopping tracks (5 & 8 at Stratford) and fast (9 & 10).
I've known passengers at Forest Gate to walk across the line because the
train comes into a different platform from the one advertised and announced,
station staff using the PA system to tell drivers to wait whilst passengers
change platform, stroppy deaf workmen thinking platform 4 is closed and not
understanding why so many passengers want to get on it in a hurry, and many
a frantic dash (and accident) as people rush to change. Plus when the
stopping services use platforms 9 & 10 it causes chaos for everyone at
Stratford trying to be in the "right part of the train" for exit at their
destination.



Tim Roll-Pickering October 23rd 06 05:41 PM

Stratford Regional
 
Great Eastern wrote:

What ****es me off most is when you want to go from Stratford to
Liverpool Street and you have to choose between platforms 5 and 10 (so
far apart).


IIRC most trains to LST from Stratford which are on the Up Main (P9) are
Set Down Only. P5 is the Up Electric which are the ones you should board.


Not totally - a lot of services seem to switch between the fast and stopping
tracks with scant regard for this. It's not even consistent where on the
line they switch.




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