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http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=934

So at Whitechapel the high level platforms are the Underground, and the low
level platforms will be the Overground.


Indeed. Does anyone know if they're going to keep the East London Line
branding once the extension is completed, or will it become just
another overground link?

Also, from the link:

"Phase two will join the East London Railway to Clapham Junction and
will complete an orbital rail route around London on which London
Overground services will run, following the London 2012 Olympics."

Surely inaccurate? There won't be a single orbital rail route;
passengers will be able to complete an outer circle journey, but only
with a few changes: Clapham Junction to Willesden Junction, Willesden
Junction to Highbury & Islington, Highbury & Islington to Surrey Quays,
Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction.

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Peter Masson wrote:
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http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=934
So at Whitechapel the high level platforms are the Underground, and the low
level platforms will be the Overground.


Indeed. Does anyone know if they're going to keep the East London Line
branding once the extension is completed, or will it become just
another overground link?


Much info at:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=886

There will be new, standardised "London Overground" branding for the
completed ELLX (the East London Railway) and the ex-Silverlink lines
(the North London Railway). The colour theme is the essentially the
orange of the East London line, but on the map, all London Overground
services will be shown using a double line in the same manner as the DLR.

So the answer is, no, it won't be "just another" overground link, but
neither will it strictly keep the original ELL branding.

Also, from the link:

"Phase two will join the East London Railway to Clapham Junction and
will complete an orbital rail route around London on which London
Overground services will run, following the London 2012 Olympics."

Surely inaccurate? There won't be a single orbital rail route;
passengers will be able to complete an outer circle journey, but only
with a few changes: Clapham Junction to Willesden Junction, Willesden
Junction to Highbury & Islington, Highbury & Islington to Surrey Quays,
Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction.


I think it's just slightly sloppy wording - for "rail route", read
"railway".

The future North London Railway service pattern is still very much in
the works. For some period after NLL improvements but before GOBLIN
improvements, there will be 4tph from Clapham Junction to Stratford.
When the Primrose Hill route reopens to passenger traffic, those WLL
trains will divert to Barking instead, resulting in the changes you
identified (although you could get from CJ to Gospel Oak before needing
to change). The Queen's Park to Stratford via Primrose Hill service
appears to depend on the possible Bakerloo line re-extension to Watford
Junction and replacement of the Euston to Watford DC services.


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