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Thomas Wiacek wrote:
hi just wondering when fcc will get some new trains as the current ones are dirty and broken when i go to sit down on one i have to push the seat in first. Could anyone tell me when fcc are getting new stock. It depends which bit of FCC you are referring to. The Great Northern stock is, in the main, mid-1990s Class 365 trains - quite suitable for the job, in pretty good condition and a long way from requiring replacement. The handful of Class 317s (from 1982) that remain are a different matter, although the refurbishment exercise that has been undertaken on them has improved the environment slightly. If you are referring to the Thameslink route then the Class 319s date from the late 1980s, when they were built to replace the original BedPan electrification Class 317s (which went to what is now the Silverlink County route for a while before moving to Great Northern and more recently 'one' Railway). The 319s have never been particularly good for the job. The accommodation is cramped, the seats are way too low and far too closely fitted (I'm 6' 5" and when I sit down - in the bay seats, I can't get into the face-to-back ones - my knees are usually about two inches from the facing seat cushion). However, it looks very likely that this stock will remain until the former Thameslink 2000 project is finally funded, when it would be likely that a common build of stock would be acquired for both the Thameslink and Great Northern sections, once they physically come together. In the meantime, all you have to look forward to is the possible return of the 'missing' 319 units that are currently operated by Southern Railway, which may occur in the New Year when South West Trains have a shuffle round of stock and return the Wessex Electric Class 442 units to the leasing company - word is that they *may* make their way to Southern, for Brighton services, causing a cascade of stock that will free up the remaining 319s for a return to the Thameslink route of FCC. |
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