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Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station Names?
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Gunjani wrote:
Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station

Names?

Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance).
Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about.
It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the
digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*)
in one area.

Pudding Mill Lane gets it's name from an old water mill on the Bow
Back River.

All Saints from the nearby Hawksmoor church.

Westferry from Westferry road named from the old ferry that crossed
the Thames from the IoD to Surrey Quays - the East Ferry worked from
further round the Island.

The Quays' names all refer to various quays within the India Docks
(west & east) and Millwall Docks - Millwall from the numerous
windmills that used to be along the river on the west side of the
Isle of Dogs. It's still a wind-trap today - try walking on The
Quarterdeck pedestrian shopping area on the Barkantine Estate on a
calm day - it's like a wind tunnel!

Island Gardens is a nice little park on the river opposite Greenwich
with fantastic views.

Cutty Sark from the ship of the same name preserved at Greenwich.

Limehouse from the lime kilns that used to be there.

Royal Victoria from the old Royal Docks.

Cyprus from the name of the local area (may be a corruption of
cypress, as in the tree - like Poplar).

Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't
know why Gallion instead of Galleon)

Sorry about the long reply, but hope it helps.

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:18:02 +0100, "Redonda"
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Gunjani wrote:
Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station

Names?

Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance).
Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about.
It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the
digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*)


Original plan was to call Mudchute Millwall Dock.

The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable to
find the football ground turn nasty!

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Robert Woolley wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:18:02 +0100, "Redonda"
wrote:

Gunjani wrote:
Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station
Names?


Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance).
Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask

about.
It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from

the
digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped

(*chuted*)

Original plan was to call Mudchute Millwall Dock.

The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable

to
find the football ground turn nasty!

Rob.


Never heard that one - but as a local resident I applaud the
consideration. South of the river is still too close for comfort
with *that* unruly mob :-(

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The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable to
find the football ground turn nasty!

What do you mean, *turn* nasty? ;-)




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Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't
know why Gallion instead of Galleon)


Because standardised spelling is a relatively modern phenomenon. Galion,
gallion and galleon were all accepted spellings a couple of hundred years or
so ago.

Colin Bignell


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Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I

don't
know why Gallion instead of Galleon)


Because standardised spelling is a relatively modern phenomenon.
Galion, gallion and galleon were all accepted spellings a couple of
hundred years or so ago.

Colin Bignell


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Gunjani wrote:
Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station

Names?

Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance).
Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about.
It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the
digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*)
in one area.

Pudding Mill Lane gets it's name from an old water mill on the Bow
Back River.

All Saints from the nearby Hawksmoor church.

Westferry from Westferry road named from the old ferry that crossed
the Thames from the IoD to Surrey Quays - the East Ferry worked from
further round the Island.

The Quays' names all refer to various quays within the India Docks
(west & east) and Millwall Docks - Millwall from the numerous
windmills that used to be along the river on the west side of the
Isle of Dogs. It's still a wind-trap today - try walking on The
Quarterdeck pedestrian shopping area on the Barkantine Estate on a
calm day - it's like a wind tunnel!

Island Gardens is a nice little park on the river opposite Greenwich
with fantastic views.

Cutty Sark from the ship of the same name preserved at Greenwich.

Limehouse from the lime kilns that used to be there.

Royal Victoria from the old Royal Docks.

Cyprus from the name of the local area (may be a corruption of
cypress, as in the tree - like Poplar).

Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't
know why Gallion instead of Galleon)

Sorry about the long reply, but hope it helps.

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Much appreciated, I didn't know Poplar was named after Trees!

My daughter's actually doing a small school holiday project on the
Docklands Light Railway Station Names... History & Origins etc;
Ironic no-one at DLR could assist. Thoughht about trying the Local
Council Boroughs but I concluded I might just as get as little response
as DLR.
I (she) would appreciate as much assistance as possible. She is trying
to research a bit of Tidbits/history behind the namong of the area hence
station name.

Just an additional point of interest... Canning Town is named after
George Canning, He was a Prime Minister Of Britain in 1827 at one time
as well as a Foriegn Minister and was noted for a Duel in which he was
wounded in the thigh by Lord Castlereigh, Sept 1809.
And did you know Limehouse was to be called East Stepney, and East India
was originally named Brunswick ( it cost Tower Hamlets, where the
Council is now located £60,000 in admin costs to rename that station in
1991).
I guess Devons Road was named after the road it's on?

As for Stratford and Crossharbour there not as obvious, as well as
Beckton, Bow Church, Heron QuayS, Greenwich, Lewisham, Blackwall, East
India, Prince Regent, Custom House, Shadwell...

And Beckton Park ( not the station) where is it?

Any more help?

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Gunjani wrote:

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Much appreciated, I didn't know Poplar was named after Trees!


IIRC rows of poplar trees were planted here to act as wind-breaks.

My daughter's actually doing a small school holiday project on the
Docklands Light Railway Station Names... History & Origins etc;
Ironic no-one at DLR could assist. Thoughht about trying the Local
Council Boroughs but I concluded I might just as get as little
response as DLR.
I (she) would appreciate as much assistance as possible. She is

trying
to research a bit of Tidbits/history behind the namong of the area
hence station name.


Actually Tower Hamlets council has a local history unit and would put
you in touch if you called their main switchboard on 020 7364 5000.
The Town Hall is located at Mulberry Place, Poplar, which gets it's
name from the floating harbours (called 'Mulberries') which were
built at that spot for use in the Normandy landings in WW2.

Just an additional point of interest... Canning Town is named after
George Canning, He was a Prime Minister Of Britain in 1827 at one

time
as well as a Foriegn Minister and was noted for a Duel in which he

was
wounded in the thigh by Lord Castlereigh, Sept 1809.
And did you know Limehouse was to be called East Stepney, and East
India was originally named Brunswick ( it cost Tower Hamlets, where
the Council is now located £60,000 in admin costs to rename that
station in 1991).
I guess Devons Road was named after the road it's on?


Correct.

As for Stratford and Crossharbour there not as obvious, as well as
Beckton, Bow Church, Heron QuayS, Greenwich, Lewisham, Blackwall,

East
India, Prince Regent, Custom House, Shadwell...


Stratford I guess comes from a ford (shallow horse and/or waggon
crossing) either across the river Lee or one of its tributaries.

Crossharbour is a point at which a glass-sided foot-bridge once
crossed Millwall Dock (to the end of my road - I remember it and the
pontoon bridge [constructed from old barges] which replaced it until
new development spread across it linked by a short Dutch-style
bridge.

Bow Church is from the church near Bow flyover on the A11 which sits
in the middle of the road between 2 one-way sections. It was called
that so as not to be confused with nearby Bow Road LUL District Line
station.

Not sure about the origin of Heron Quays - nesting herons perhaps :-)
It was the next wharf to the north of Canary Wharf and friends of
mine used to have a boat moored there 20 years ago until the
developers evicted them :-(

Lewisham - the hamlet of Lewis (your guess is as good as mine).

Blackwall - possibly from the high 'security' walls around the East
India Dock or may be much older than that.

Prince Regent from Prince Regent Lane leading to the Royal Albert
Dock.

Custom House is the old HQ of HM Customs and Excise for the Royal
Docks. The building is still there.

Shadwell would have been the site of a drinking water well possibly
owned or dug by a Mr Shad.

There's an interesting map of South Poplar and the Isle of Dogs
dating from 1885 )click on the map for a larger version) at:
http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-poplar-s-th.htm


And Beckton Park ( not the station) where is it?


North of the Docklands Spine Road and the DLR between Custom House
and Beckton Park stations.

Any more help?


Tell your daughter she should do *some* research on her own ;-)

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Redonda wrote:
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There's an interesting map of South Poplar and the Isle of Dogs
dating from 1885 )click on the map for a larger version) at:
http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-poplar-s-th.htm


Here's another useful site I've just found:
http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/bridges/...ands-menu.html

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