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Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station Names?
-- Many Thanks Gunjani A criminal is a person with predatory instincts without sufficient capital to form a corporation. -- Howard Scott |
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Gunjani wrote:
Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station Names? Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance). Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about. It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*) in one area. Pudding Mill Lane gets it's name from an old water mill on the Bow Back River. All Saints from the nearby Hawksmoor church. Westferry from Westferry road named from the old ferry that crossed the Thames from the IoD to Surrey Quays - the East Ferry worked from further round the Island. The Quays' names all refer to various quays within the India Docks (west & east) and Millwall Docks - Millwall from the numerous windmills that used to be along the river on the west side of the Isle of Dogs. It's still a wind-trap today - try walking on The Quarterdeck pedestrian shopping area on the Barkantine Estate on a calm day - it's like a wind tunnel! Island Gardens is a nice little park on the river opposite Greenwich with fantastic views. Cutty Sark from the ship of the same name preserved at Greenwich. Limehouse from the lime kilns that used to be there. Royal Victoria from the old Royal Docks. Cyprus from the name of the local area (may be a corruption of cypress, as in the tree - like Poplar). Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't know why Gallion instead of Galleon) Sorry about the long reply, but hope it helps. -- Phil ,,,^.".^,,, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 01/08/03 |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:18:02 +0100, "Redonda"
wrote: Gunjani wrote: Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station Names? Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance). Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about. It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*) Original plan was to call Mudchute Millwall Dock. The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable to find the football ground turn nasty! Rob. -- rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk |
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Robert Woolley wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:18:02 +0100, "Redonda" wrote: Gunjani wrote: Does anyone know the origins of Docklands Light Railway Station Names? Most of them are obvious (Stratford or Crossharbour for instance). Of the more esoteric ones Mudchute is the one most people ask about. It's near a raised public park that resulted from the earth from the digging out of the docks on the Isle of Dogs being dumped (*chuted*) Original plan was to call Mudchute Millwall Dock. The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable to find the football ground turn nasty! Rob. Never heard that one - but as a local resident I applaud the consideration. South of the river is still too close for comfort with *that* unruly mob :-( -- Phil ,,,^.".^,,, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 01/08/03 |
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![]() "Robert Woolley" wrote in message ... The residents feared that Millwall fans would turn up, and unable to find the football ground turn nasty! What do you mean, *turn* nasty? ;-) |
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![]() "Redonda" wrote in message ... .... Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't know why Gallion instead of Galleon) Because standardised spelling is a relatively modern phenomenon. Galion, gallion and galleon were all accepted spellings a couple of hundred years or so ago. Colin Bignell |
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nightjar wrote:
"Redonda" wrote in message ... ... Gallions Reach from a stretch (or reach) of the river nearby (I don't know why Gallion instead of Galleon) Because standardised spelling is a relatively modern phenomenon. Galion, gallion and galleon were all accepted spellings a couple of hundred years or so ago. Colin Bignell Thanks Colin :-) -- Phil ,,,^.".^,,, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03 |
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Gunjani wrote:
snip Much appreciated, I didn't know Poplar was named after Trees! IIRC rows of poplar trees were planted here to act as wind-breaks. My daughter's actually doing a small school holiday project on the Docklands Light Railway Station Names... History & Origins etc; Ironic no-one at DLR could assist. Thoughht about trying the Local Council Boroughs but I concluded I might just as get as little response as DLR. I (she) would appreciate as much assistance as possible. She is trying to research a bit of Tidbits/history behind the namong of the area hence station name. Actually Tower Hamlets council has a local history unit and would put you in touch if you called their main switchboard on 020 7364 5000. The Town Hall is located at Mulberry Place, Poplar, which gets it's name from the floating harbours (called 'Mulberries') which were built at that spot for use in the Normandy landings in WW2. Just an additional point of interest... Canning Town is named after George Canning, He was a Prime Minister Of Britain in 1827 at one time as well as a Foriegn Minister and was noted for a Duel in which he was wounded in the thigh by Lord Castlereigh, Sept 1809. And did you know Limehouse was to be called East Stepney, and East India was originally named Brunswick ( it cost Tower Hamlets, where the Council is now located £60,000 in admin costs to rename that station in 1991). I guess Devons Road was named after the road it's on? Correct. As for Stratford and Crossharbour there not as obvious, as well as Beckton, Bow Church, Heron QuayS, Greenwich, Lewisham, Blackwall, East India, Prince Regent, Custom House, Shadwell... Stratford I guess comes from a ford (shallow horse and/or waggon crossing) either across the river Lee or one of its tributaries. Crossharbour is a point at which a glass-sided foot-bridge once crossed Millwall Dock (to the end of my road - I remember it and the pontoon bridge [constructed from old barges] which replaced it until new development spread across it linked by a short Dutch-style bridge. Bow Church is from the church near Bow flyover on the A11 which sits in the middle of the road between 2 one-way sections. It was called that so as not to be confused with nearby Bow Road LUL District Line station. Not sure about the origin of Heron Quays - nesting herons perhaps :-) It was the next wharf to the north of Canary Wharf and friends of mine used to have a boat moored there 20 years ago until the developers evicted them :-( Lewisham - the hamlet of Lewis (your guess is as good as mine). Blackwall - possibly from the high 'security' walls around the East India Dock or may be much older than that. Prince Regent from Prince Regent Lane leading to the Royal Albert Dock. Custom House is the old HQ of HM Customs and Excise for the Royal Docks. The building is still there. Shadwell would have been the site of a drinking water well possibly owned or dug by a Mr Shad. There's an interesting map of South Poplar and the Isle of Dogs dating from 1885 )click on the map for a larger version) at: http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-poplar-s-th.htm And Beckton Park ( not the station) where is it? North of the Docklands Spine Road and the DLR between Custom House and Beckton Park stations. Any more help? Tell your daughter she should do *some* research on her own ;-) -- Phil ,,,^.".^,,, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03 |
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Redonda wrote:
snip There's an interesting map of South Poplar and the Isle of Dogs dating from 1885 )click on the map for a larger version) at: http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-poplar-s-th.htm Here's another useful site I've just found: http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/bridges/...ands-menu.html -- Phil ,,,^.".^,,, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03 |
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