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Raymond Kirk January 28th 07 07:58 AM

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How does Oyster work when you need to touch in and touch out on more than
one occasion to complete a journey.

E.G A jorney from Harow on the Hill to Oxford Circus

Touch in at Harrow on the Hill.

Use Chiltern line to get to Marylebone.

At Marlebone, touch out to exit Chiltern Rail.

Touch in to enter Bakerloo line.

Touch out at Oxford Circus.


This would register as 2 journeys and cost £7.

This does not make sense!



TKD January 28th 07 08:18 AM

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"Raymond Kirk" wrote in message
...
How does Oyster work when you need to touch in and touch out on more than
one occasion to complete a journey.

E.G A jorney from Harow on the Hill to Oxford Circus

Touch in at Harrow on the Hill.

Use Chiltern line to get to Marylebone.

At Marlebone, touch out to exit Chiltern Rail.

Touch in to enter Bakerloo line.

Touch out at Oxford Circus.


This would register as 2 journeys and cost £7.

This does not make sense!


If you touch in and out exactly as you describe, you will only be charged
for one journey.



David Jackman January 28th 07 08:27 AM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
"Raymond Kirk" wrote in
:

How does Oyster work when you need to touch in and touch out on more
than one occasion to complete a journey.

E.G A jorney from Harow on the Hill to Oxford Circus

Touch in at Harrow on the Hill.

Use Chiltern line to get to Marylebone.

At Marlebone, touch out to exit Chiltern Rail.

Touch in to enter Bakerloo line.

Touch out at Oxford Circus.


This would register as 2 journeys and cost £7.

This does not make sense!



When you pass through the Chiltern barrier line at Marylebone Oyster
will deduct £3.50. If you enter the Bakerloo line within a set period
(I think 15 minutes) Oyster treats it as the same journey. Confusingly
it will display a charge of £3.50 on exit but that's the £3.50 already
paid. I my experience Oyster is very good at getting this sort of thing
right.

Now, a question for the experts. What happens on the return journey
when, if you just miss an Aylesbury train on a Sunday, for example, the
interchange time at Marylebone could easily be 50+ minutes. Presumably
Oyster would could that as two journeys, as well as the obvious
alterative (walk to Baker Street and catch a Met from there)?

David


Paul Corfield January 28th 07 09:58 AM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:58:21 -0000, "Raymond Kirk"
wrote:

How does Oyster work when you need to touch in and touch out on more than
one occasion to complete a journey.

E.G A jorney from Harow on the Hill to Oxford Circus

Touch in at Harrow on the Hill.

Use Chiltern line to get to Marylebone.

At Marlebone, touch out to exit Chiltern Rail.

Touch in to enter Bakerloo line.

Touch out at Oxford Circus.

This would register as 2 journeys and cost £7.

This does not make sense!


It would not register as two journeys provided the interchange at
Marylebone is done as if it was one through journey i.e. you don't
wander off for a couple of hours exploring the Marylebone area.

The gates are set to recognise such interchange traffic and as LU fares
apply both sides of the gateline then it will be treated as a through
trip at one fare. As others have said you may see some strange values on
gateline displays as you interchange due to values being deducted and
added back on but on final exit the normal HoH to Oxo fares should be
the one that is charged.

It is also worth noting that there is a 2 hour maximum journey time for
PAYG trips and that should be easily achievable on the trip you mention.

Does your query stem from a real life experience or from pondering how
the system works?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!


Raymond Kirk January 28th 07 10:11 AM

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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:58:21 -0000, "Raymond Kirk"
wrote:

How does Oyster work when you need to touch in and touch out on more than
one occasion to complete a journey.

E.G A jorney from Harow on the Hill to Oxford Circus

Touch in at Harrow on the Hill.

Use Chiltern line to get to Marylebone.

At Marlebone, touch out to exit Chiltern Rail.

Touch in to enter Bakerloo line.

Touch out at Oxford Circus.

This would register as 2 journeys and cost £7.

This does not make sense!


It would not register as two journeys provided the interchange at
Marylebone is done as if it was one through journey i.e. you don't
wander off for a couple of hours exploring the Marylebone area.

The gates are set to recognise such interchange traffic and as LU fares
apply both sides of the gateline then it will be treated as a through
trip at one fare. As others have said you may see some strange values on
gateline displays as you interchange due to values being deducted and
added back on but on final exit the normal HoH to Oxo fares should be
the one that is charged.

It is also worth noting that there is a 2 hour maximum journey time for
PAYG trips and that should be easily achievable on the trip you mention.

Does your query stem from a real life experience or from pondering how
the system works?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!



Just wondering how the system works!



Bob Wood January 28th 07 10:56 AM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
In ,
Paul Corfield typed:

It would not register as two journeys provided the interchange at
Marylebone is done as if it was one through journey i.e. you don't
wander off for a couple of hours exploring the Marylebone area.


On the contrary - it *would* register as two journeys, but the first
of them would be priced at £0.00.





--
Bob



Paul Cummins January 28th 07 11:27 AM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
In article . 145,
(David Jackman) wrote:

Now, a question for the experts. What happens on the return
journey when, if you just miss an Aylesbury train on a Sunday, for
example, the interchange time at Marylebone could easily be 50+
minutes. Presumably Oyster would could that as two journeys, as
well as the obvious alterative (walk to Baker Street and catch a
Met from there)?


Surely it would cap...?

--
Paul Cummins

**FREE** mobile phones, with FREE line rental
http://www.gstgroup.co.uk/

David Jackman January 28th 07 03:13 PM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
(Paul Cummins) wrote in
:

In article . 145,
(David Jackman) wrote:

Now, a question for the experts. What happens on the return
journey when, if you just miss an Aylesbury train on a Sunday, for
example, the interchange time at Marylebone could easily be 50+
minutes. Presumably Oyster would could that as two journeys, as
well as the obvious alterative (walk to Baker Street and catch a
Met from there)?


Surely it would cap...?


Not on a Weekend; the Oyster single is a bargain £2.00 but the Off peak one
day travelcard £6.70 (i.e. £6.20 cap).


Paul Cummins January 28th 07 05:10 PM

Using Oyster on Valid NR Services
 
In article . 145,
(David Jackman) wrote:

Off peak one
day travelcard £6.70 (i.e. £6.20 cap).


Ye Ghods - when did that happen?

Last time I bought a ODTC it was £4.70.

--
Paul Cummins

**FREE** mobile phones, with FREE line rental
http://www.gstgroup.co.uk/

asdf January 28th 07 05:24 PM

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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:10 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Paul Cummins
wrote:

Off peak one
day travelcard £6.70 (i.e. £6.20 cap).


Ye Ghods - when did that happen?

Last time I bought a ODTC it was £4.70.


It goes up much faster than inflation. In 2005 it went up more than
11% (£5.40 to £6.00).


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