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I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?

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Boltar wrote:

I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?


It's you - steaming about the yoof of today.

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Victoria line is completely underground - it does not have a natural
source of fresh air, like most other lines.

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In message . com,
Boltar writes

I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?


Perhaps its because Victoria-line trains remain entirely underground
while in service.
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I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?

B2003


Of the deep tube lines, the Central, Northern and Jubilee are cooler as they
use more modern traction and braking technology that doesn't create so much
heat. The Vic should be cooler when it gets new trains in 2009.




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"Boltar" wrote in message
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I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?

B2003


The CCO (Coasting Control Override) trial might have some effect.

Andrew


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On Jan 30, 8:28 pm, "Andy" wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in message

ups.com...

I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?


B2003


The CCO (Coasting Control Override) trial might have some effect.


Whats this then?

B2003


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On Jan 31, 9:40 am, "Boltar" wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:28 pm, "Andy" wrote:

"Boltar" wrote in message


oups.com...


I've noticed the victoria line seems to be much warmer than the other
lines these days (or maybe it always has been but I've not noticed).
Is this because the trains are more frequent , or they use up more
energy on ATO , or the tunnel ventilation isn't so good , or is there
some other reason?


B2003


The CCO (Coasting Control Override) trial might have some effect.


Whats this then?

B2003


I'm not sure if the CCO would be an issue - it's only enabled on three
stretches:

Seven Sisters - Finsbury Park (southbound only)
Oxford Circus - Green Park (southbound only)
Green Park - Victoria (southbound only)

For anyone interested this features keeps the motor going rather than
coasting once the train's reached its maximum speed. I think the heat
issue is more likely to be caused by people not opening the end of car
windows on a stock that, otherwise, has quite limited air circulation.
When the end-car windows are open at both ends I think the trains are
pretty reasonable temperature-wise

Tom

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On Feb 1, 1:38 pm, "Tom Page" wrote:
For anyone interested this features keeps the motor going rather than
coasting once the train's reached its maximum speed. I think the heat


Whats the advantage of that? Wouldn't it just waste electricity and
cause excess heat as mentioned?

B2003




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On 1 Feb, 14:03, "Boltar" wrote:
On Feb 1, 1:38 pm, "Tom Page" wrote:

For anyone interested this features keeps the motor going rather than
coasting once the train's reached its maximum speed. I think the heat


Whats the advantage of that? Wouldn't it just waste electricity and
cause excess heat as mentioned?

B2003


It's not exactly rocket science that if one coasts one loses speed due
to friction, so keeping the motor going allows faster journey speeds.
Of course, the benefit of this has to be weighed up against energy use
and maintenance requirements.

Tom



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