"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On 12 Mar 2007 12:32:58 -0700, "Andrea" wrote:

I have a Z1-3 annual Travelcard loaded onto my Oyster. I have a few
questions:-

- Is this valid on all National Rail routes within zones 1-3? E.g.
the North London Line or Waterloo-Wimbledon?

Yes as was said in my last reply to you on this subject on 6th March
2007. Two other people also replied to your questions on that date - out
of curiosity did you read any of our answers?

Do guards just examine
the Oyster or do they have those handheld devices which detect an
annual from a PAYG?

They should have hand held readers but it seems a proportion of them
have been lost. It is not your problem if a TOC representative does not
have the equipment necessary to read your card.

- If I don't touch in, will I incur a penalty when I touch out or will
they system assume I started my journey within Z1-3? Today, I got a
FCC train from Luton Airport, and forgot to touch in upon arrival at
KX Thameslink but I did touch out at Kensington Olympia. Similarly,
what happens if I touch in but don't touch out? Will the system
assume I ended my journey within Z1-3? For instance, I can touch in
at Blackhorse Road but obviously not touch out at a Silverlink Metro
station.

Strictly speaking for Travelcard holders on Oyster you don't have to
touch in and out everywhere *where your ticket is valid*. It does become
important to touch in and out if you intend to use the PAYG facility
(yes it's still there on your card alongside your travelcard ticket) to
auto extend on LU (DLR doesn't count as your ticket zones covers all of
DLR). The gates will be unable to calculate the extension fare to be
deducted if you do not record entry and exit.

- If I want to make a journey to, say, Virginia Water, can I ask the
SWT clerk for a Cheap Day Return from Boundary Zone 3 to Virginia
Water after presenting my Oystercard?

Yes you can.

- If I board a Bendybus and don't touch in, will I be penalised if a
RPI checks my Oyster, or does the penalty fare scheme only apply to
PAYG?

Your Travelcard is valid for all TfL bus journeys across London. This
includes Bendy Buses and there is no requirement for Travelcard holders
to touch in a bendy bus. Equally there is no harm in touching your card
- I sometimes touch in with my staff pass on bendy buses.

I used to be on PAYG, so the switch is pretty confusing. Thanks for
your help.

I think I'm going to take out a massive billboard in the middle of
London and post all these answers to Oyster questions on it. It'll save
my fingers.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Can you put another billboard up at Heathrow to help those of us coming in
from overseas :-)
I must be getting better at this, as I got all the above questions right
(well, I agreed with you anyway-- on this group someone may have a contrary
view)
cheers
Peter
Sydney

On Mar 12, 11:50 pm, "peter" wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

...

On 12 Mar 2007 12:32:58 -0700, "Andrea" wrote:

I have a Z1-3 annual Travelcard loaded onto my Oyster. I have a few
questions:-

- Is this valid on all National Rail routes within zones 1-3? E.g.
the North London Line or Waterloo-Wimbledon?

Yes as was said in my last reply to you on this subject on 6th March
2007. Two other people also replied to your questions on that date - out
of curiosity did you read any of our answers?

Do guards just examine
the Oyster or do they have those handheld devices which detect an
annual from a PAYG?

They should have hand held readers but it seems a proportion of them
have been lost. It is not your problem if a TOC representative does not
have the equipment necessary to read your card.

- If I don't touch in, will I incur a penalty when I touch out or will
they system assume I started my journey within Z1-3? Today, I got a
FCC train from Luton Airport, and forgot to touch in upon arrival at
KX Thameslink but I did touch out at Kensington Olympia. Similarly,
what happens if I touch in but don't touch out? Will the system
assume I ended my journey within Z1-3? For instance, I can touch in
at Blackhorse Road but obviously not touch out at a Silverlink Metro
station.

Strictly speaking for Travelcard holders on Oyster you don't have to
touch in and out everywhere *where your ticket is valid*. It does become
important to touch in and out if you intend to use the PAYG facility
(yes it's still there on your card alongside your travelcard ticket) to
auto extend on LU (DLR doesn't count as your ticket zones covers all of
DLR). The gates will be unable to calculate the extension fare to be
deducted if you do not record entry and exit.

- If I want to make a journey to, say, Virginia Water, can I ask the
SWT clerk for a Cheap Day Return from Boundary Zone 3 to Virginia
Water after presenting my Oystercard?

Yes you can.

- If I board a Bendybus and don't touch in, will I be penalised if a
RPI checks my Oyster, or does the penalty fare scheme only apply to
PAYG?

Your Travelcard is valid for all TfL bus journeys across London. This
includes Bendy Buses and there is no requirement for Travelcard holders
to touch in a bendy bus. Equally there is no harm in touching your card
- I sometimes touch in with my staff pass on bendy buses.

I used to be on PAYG, so the switch is pretty confusing. Thanks for
your help.

I think I'm going to take out a massive billboard in the middle of
London and post all these answers to Oyster questions on it. It'll save
my fingers.
--
Paul C

Admits to working for London Underground!

Can you put another billboard up at Heathrow to help those of us coming in
from overseas :-)
I must be getting better at this, as I got all the above questions right
(well, I agreed with you anyway-- on this group someone may have a contrary
view)

If Paul gets the answers wrong, there's no hope for the rest of us!

On 13 Mar 2007 07:06:45 -0700, "Paul Weaver"
wrote:

On Mar 12, 11:50 pm, "peter" wrote:

Can you put another billboard up at Heathrow to help those of us coming in
from overseas :-)
I must be getting better at this, as I got all the above questions right
(well, I agreed with you anyway-- on this group someone may have a contrary
view)

If Paul gets the answers wrong, there's no hope for the rest of us!

Oh but I do get them wrong sometimes - partly because I'm not fully au
fait with the detail and also because I have a staff card and therefore
don't have to be familiar with machine, ticket office or Internet / help
line processes. Many posters here have far more "normal" interaction
with the system than I do and therefore have that additional insight.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!