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The new underground station at St Pancras for Thameslink services is usually
referred to as 'Midland Road' in the various documentation available on the
web.

However - does it actually need a separate name when it comes into use? As I
see it from the station plans its going to be accessed from the same
'entrance cross passage' as the MML and Kent platforms, so why can't it just
use the next two sequential platform numbers? Clearly the station it
replaces needed a separate identity, but I'm not so sure about the new
one...

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On 16 Mar, 12:18, "Paul Scott" wrote:
The new underground station at St Pancras for Thameslink services is usually
referred to as 'Midland Road' in the various documentation available on the
web.

However - does it actually need a separate name when it comes into use? As I
see it from the station plans its going to be accessed from the same
'entrance cross passage' as the MML and Kent platforms, so why can't it just
use the next two sequential platform numbers? Clearly the station it
replaces needed a separate identity, but I'm not so sure about the new
one...

Paul



Good point. AFAIAA the final name hasn't yet been decided/confirmed -
St. Pancras Midland Road is the "project name", as it were.

I guess FCC wouldn't be too keen on St Pancras Thameslink, but I'm
sure they don't have a carte blance with regards to the stations
naming.

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On Mar 16, 5:13 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
Good point. AFAIAA the final name hasn't yet been decided/confirmed -
St. Pancras Midland Road is the "project name", as it were.

I guess FCC wouldn't be too keen on St Pancras Thameslink, but I'm
sure they don't have a carte blance with regards to the stations
naming.


Some people are already calling the Thameslink station 'St. Pancras
Midland Road Low Level' and the MML platforms 'St. Pancras Midland
Road High Level'.

I wonder if the CTRL-DS platforms will end up being called 'St.
Pancras Kentish Road'!

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On 16 Mar, 19:49, "TheOneKEA" wrote:


Some people are already calling the Thameslink station 'St. Pancras
Midland Road Low Level' and the MML platforms 'St. Pancras Midland
Road High Level'.

I wonder if the CTRL-DS platforms will end up being called 'St.
Pancras Kentish Road'!


I remember reading years ago a suggest that it be called St Pancras
British Musuem.

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On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, "ONscotland" wrote:

I remember reading years ago a suggest that it be called St Pancras
British Musuem.


British Library maybe?



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On 16 Mar 2007 12:49:24 -0700, "TheOneKEA"
wrote:

On Mar 16, 5:13 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
Good point. AFAIAA the final name hasn't yet been decided/confirmed -
St. Pancras Midland Road is the "project name", as it were.

I guess FCC wouldn't be too keen on St Pancras Thameslink, but I'm
sure they don't have a carte blance with regards to the stations
naming.


Some people are already calling the Thameslink station 'St. Pancras
Midland Road Low Level' and the MML platforms 'St. Pancras Midland
Road High Level'.

I wonder if the CTRL-DS platforms will end up being called 'St.
Pancras Kentish Road'!


Surely it should be St Pancras Pancras Road.

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On 16 Mar 2007 10:13:34 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I guess FCC wouldn't be too keen on St Pancras Thameslink, but I'm
sure they don't have a carte blance with regards to the stations
naming.


Why not just "London St. Pancras"? It's effectively the same station
(cf Merseyrail).

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On 18 Mar, 15:51, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
Why not just "London St. Pancras"? It's effectively the same station


I was thinking that, considering King's Cross platforms 9-11 aren't
given a special name even though they're away from the main platforms.

You have King's Cross St Pancras for the underground, come upstairs
and go to King's Cross OR St Pancras. How complicated is that? Once in
either station, you go for the platform required by following the
signs or looking at a map. Why confuse things with another station,
which will be the same as we have now with King's Cross Thameslink!

Jonathan


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jonmorris wrote:
On 18 Mar, 15:51, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
Why not just "London St. Pancras"? It's effectively the same
station


I was thinking that, considering King's Cross platforms 9-11 aren't
given a special name even though they're away from the main
platforms.

You have King's Cross St Pancras for the underground, come upstairs
and go to King's Cross OR St Pancras. How complicated is that? Once
in either station, you go for the platform required by following the
signs or looking at a map. Why confuse things with another station,
which will be the same as we have now with King's Cross Thameslink!


Gare du Nord in Paris is in a similar situation, having a large terminus
above ground and the RER through lines underground. The terminus has
platforms 1-21 (inter-city/international) and 30-36 (suburban), and the
RER below them has platforms 41-44. As with Kings Cross St Pancras, the
Métro platforms are regarded as a separate station.
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On 18 Mar, 23:36, "Richard J." wrote:
Gare du Nord in Paris is in a similar situation, having a large terminus
above ground and the RER through lines underground. The terminus has
platforms 1-21 (inter-city/international) and 30-36 (suburban), and the
RER below them has platforms 41-44. As with Kings Cross St Pancras, the
Métro platforms are regarded as a separate station.


Now is the chance for us to get it right. I suppose the only confusion
might arise when we get Thameslink 3-Billion, as I don't know how the
GN side will connect and where trains will terminate (some going to
King's Cross and some going through, via St Pancras)?

Jonathan



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