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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 10:47 am, "D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.

Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.



Although since posting that I see you refer to Southampton to
Eastleigh on your web pages - but I can't quite see where ''...
Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes ...'' comes in to play.


'Cos the brain is in neutral today :-) I meant Eastleigh, it just came out
as Basingstoke...

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"BH Williams" wrote in message
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"D7666" wrote in message
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On Apr 3, 10:18 am, "BH Williams" wrote:


'Dartford' is a workstation at Ashford IECC, as is the CTRL .
Brian

I did not know that abotu Dartford, although I did about CTRl.

When did Dartford PSB close ?


--
Nick


Did it ever open? I thought the 'box was the one at Gillingham, by the
depot- this was never fitted out, as the IECC at Ashford had sufficent
capacity to accomodate the functions.The North Kent signals do still bear
the NK prefix, however. Even now, with all the other bits added on to the
original SER mainline, there still seems to be space at Ashford for more.
Brian
How is the Kent Coast line signalled?

TIA

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On Apr 3, 12:20 pm, "BH Williams" wrote:

When did Dartford PSB close ?

Did it ever open?


Now I am confused.

Surely there was a PSB on the Down side to the east of Dartford
station - opposite the carriage sidings on the Up side. Standard BR SR
late 60s / early 70s grey box on the same lines as the SW division
PSBs.

Its marked in the 1994 SR Quail fringing London Bridge at Woolwich
Arsenal, Falconwood and New Eltham on the three Dartford lines, with
Cuxton on the Maidstone West line, and with Rochester immediately east
of Strood.

I am sure it existed, becuase I know someone who was an S&T technican
who I am fairly certain was based in the box. I thought the Gillingham
scheme was to replace Rochester (incl.) and east thereof to somewhere.

--
Nick

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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:


http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/sigbox/sigbox.htm


Digressing, my default browser is Mozilla 1.7.13.

When I got to the above URL there appear to be no active links
anywhere in the page. Dragging my mouse over the entire page shows no
hyperlinks at all.

Interesting.


If I look at the HTML source, there are tags in there that I do not
recognise, and tags that I would normally expect to see are not
present - - - although my knowledge of HTML is far from expert, and I
accept there are sometimes different ways of acheivng the same thing.

What don't you see that you should? My knowledge of HTML is pretty primitive
as is probably obvious from the webpage. Haven't looked at the code for that
page for years, I now notice it's got some redundant javascript belonging to
another page, not sure how that got in there!

Must go through it and tidy it up, also rescan some of the photos.


If I open the same page in M$ Internet Explorer, I see the hyperlinks
which work as expected.

Mozilla 1.7.13 is the highest (well as at last weekend anyway)
released version apart from any beta test versions that may be out
there, so it is not a question of me needing to upgade.


More a question of me not having Mozilla, I've tested the page in Oregano,
Safari, Firefox and IE 6 and it works in all those, so I'm a little puzzled.

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DERWENT Southern's 13 Power Box Scheme
3 Apr 2007 12:25:07 -0700, "D7666"

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:


http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/sigbox/sigbox.htm


Digressing, my default browser is Mozilla 1.7.13.


Worked ok for me in Firefox/2.0.0.3. Almost all the links are on the
map, with just a link on the image and mailto. The colour roll over on
the image is broken though.

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There's an excellent film called "The First of the 13" about the
Dartford resignalling (made by someone who worked on it) on the
'Terminus' DVD:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terminus/dp/B00081MX60

Didn't mention what the other 12 were to be..but here's a guess:

Waterloo
London Bridge
Victoria
Feltham
Woking
Ashford
Three Bridges
Portsmouth
Eastleigh

+ 3 others.

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"D7666" wrote in message
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On Apr 3, 12:20 pm, "BH Williams" wrote:

When did Dartford PSB close ?

Did it ever open?


Now I am confused.

Surely there was a PSB on the Down side to the east of Dartford
station - opposite the carriage sidings on the Up side. Standard BR SR
late 60s / early 70s grey box on the same lines as the SW division
PSBs.

Its marked in the 1994 SR Quail fringing London Bridge at Woolwich
Arsenal, Falconwood and New Eltham on the three Dartford lines, with
Cuxton on the Maidstone West line, and with Rochester immediately east
of Strood.

I am sure it existed, becuase I know someone who was an S&T technican
who I am fairly certain was based in the box. I thought the Gillingham
scheme was to replace Rochester (incl.) and east thereof to somewhere.

--
Nick


Nothing at Dartford now- Quail shows the fringe between Ashford (NK) and
London Bridge (L) at Mottingham. On the south, the fringe is at Strood,
meaning that the North Kent Lines are effectively an island with no physical
connection to the main Ashford control area. Curiously, the Kent Coast line
beyond the North Kent spur at Strood is shown as being signalled by a
succession of 'normal' power-boxes- Rochester (ET), Gillingham (ET), Rainham
(EU), Sittingbourne (EV) and Faversham (EY). Beyond that, it's all 'bells
and whistles'...
I presume the intention is to 'migrate' the other boxes to Ashford IECC
eventually- I shall inquire.
Brian

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In message
PRAR wrote:

DERWENT Southern's 13 Power Box Scheme
3 Apr 2007 12:25:07 -0700, "D7666"

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:


http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/sigbox/sigbox.htm


Digressing, my default browser is Mozilla 1.7.13.


Worked ok for me in Firefox/2.0.0.3. Almost all the links are on the
map, with just a link on the image and mailto. The colour roll over on
the image is broken though.


Thanks for that, I'd deleted the roll-over code in error, should work now.

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Graeme Wall
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D7666 wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:18 am, "BH Williams" wrote:

'Dartford' is a workstation at Ashford IECC, as is the CTRL .
Brian

I did not know that abotu Dartford, although I did about CTRl.

When did Dartford PSB close ?

Not that long ago. I remember visiting on an open day in the early
'90s, including a trip into the relay room. Nice bit of kit. I spoke
to the late Stephen Parascandolo (of tramlink fame) about 2 years ago
and he told me one of his then recent jobs was the migration of the
functions of the Dartford box to Ashford, so that would imply it closed
sometime around '05.

Robin

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On Apr 3, 5:08 pm, Mad Mac wrote:

Didn't mention what the other 12 were to be..but here's a guess:

Waterloo
London Bridge
Victoria
Feltham
Woking
Ashford
Three Bridges
Portsmouth
Eastleigh

+ 3 others.

It must be something like that list.

Perhaps Basingstoke and Gillingham were two of the missing three ??



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Nick