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El sections of LU
On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote:
Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. My own personal definition would exclude anything that requires dedicated land (so most brick viaducts are out). I don't know of any bits of LU that fit this definition, but most of the DLR does. U |
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Tom Anderson wrote:
The Met's up in the air at Hillingdon, isn't it? No, but the air is lower than it! All the local roads go over it, but the A40 passes beneath it in a deep cutting, which is why you thought it was up in the air. |
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Mr Thant wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote: Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of? |
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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... Mr Thant wrote: On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote: Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of? Is the OP from the USA? - their 'El's (for it is a normal american abbreviated usage) are typically those lines that go down the middle of the street on a girderwork viaduct at about 2nd floor level, with roads underneath - I cant think of anything at all like that in the LU system. Paul |
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James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:55 -0000, " wrote: What sections are above street level? Most of it. From memory: Bakerloo north of Queen's Park Central west of White City and east of Stratford Circle - none District west of Earl's Court and east of Bow Road East London south of Surrey Quays and around Whitechapel Hammersmith & City west of Paddington and east of Bow Road Jubilee north of Finchley Road and east of Canning Town Metropolitan north-west of Finchley Road Northern north of Golders Green, north of East Finchley and around Morden Piccadilly west of Baron's Court and north-east of (???) Victoria - none Waterloo & City - none. You have listed the sections which are not in tunnel (forgetting that there is an extra Bakerloo tunnel west of Kensal Green). None of the underground runs along a street on stilts, like the "El" in New York. A small fraction of it is elevated, mostly where it crosses valleys. From memory... B - around Stonebridge Park C - ? D - ? E - none H - from near Hammersmith to Portobello Rd, not sure in East London. J - Canons Park to Queensbury, around Kilburn. M - around Kilburn, around West Harrow, around Ruislip Manor, around North Harrow, at Pinner, at Northwood (unsure of north of Northwood) N - around East Finchley, a very high viaduct near Mill Hill East, and south of High Barnet. O - none P - around Oakwood Park, north of Arnos Grove, south of Arnos Grove, from west of Hammersmith to west of Turnham Green, around Hounslow East/Central, around Alperton, around South Harrow, and around Ruislip Manor. V - none W - none |
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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... Mr Thant wrote: On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote: Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of? Is the OP from the USA? - their 'El's (for it is a normal american abbreviated usage) are typically those lines that go down the middle of the street on a girderwork viaduct at about 2nd floor level, with roads underneath - I cant think of anything at all like that in the LU system. Except, as mentioned by another poster, some parts of the original DLR (if you regard it as part of the LU system). |
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Jack Taylor wrote:
Mr Thant wrote: On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote: Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of? It's not true that nobody's heard of it. The OP certainly has. So have I, and other people in this thread. -- Michael Hoffman |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... "Paul Scott" wrote in message "Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... Mr Thant wrote: On Jun 8, 8:18 am, PhilD wrote: Well, what DOES it mean? An el is a line built high above ground level as a way to get past existing roads and structures without tunnelling or too much demolition. In other words, an elevated section - so why not use the word 'elevated' instead of a term that nobody's heard of? Is the OP from the USA? - their 'El's (for it is a normal american abbreviated usage) are typically those lines that go down the middle of the street on a girderwork viaduct at about 2nd floor level, with roads underneath - I cant think of anything at all like that in the LU system. Except, as mentioned by another poster, some parts of the original DLR (if you regard it as part of the LU system). I follow the example of TfL, they don't really consider it as part of the London Underground 'system'. However would agree that parts of the DLR are probably nearer to the American style El, certainly more relevant than traditional arched brick viaducts as used all over the London area. Paul |
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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
In article .com, (MIG) wrote: "Elevated"? District Line through the Putney area. From Parson's Green to East Putney mainly. Isn't it on a (very high for an "underground" line) embankment, rather than a US-style steel framework in the middle of the street? |
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