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I have lived in East London for nearly 20 years and the closest I've
come to being mugged was in Spalding, Lincolnshire on a visit to my
childhood home area!!!!


I've heard a few mugging stories and many seem to consist of a large
drunk asking for a pound in an aggressive manner. Hell, in North London
that's considered polite behaviour :-)

I feel safe on the streets of London, I feel sage on the NLL, I just get
really angry when people try to steal my hard earned cash.

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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:17:46 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK

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So watch your valuables on the East[sic] London Line, the vermin pick pockets
are about !!


You failed to retain his testicles. Now he can breed more scum


Everyone at work said the same and I was carrying a hefty umbrella. But
when it happens you realise no one else is aware of what happened and
you're going to be bashing the crap out of a stranger with no apparent
motive.


I'm told that an errant finger bent backwards loses resistance
beyond a certain point. Done quickly enough you needn't feel guilt; the
perp may feel something else...

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But presumably you made the police aware of what had happened by
reporting the incident


When I was burgled a few years back the police turned up next morning. A
lone officer who was told it was a car theft !

As I'd lost nothing I decided life was too short to fill in pointless
forms on the Transport Police website. What action do you think they
would take ? Tick another box on this months statistics ?

Sadly we're living in an age where we have to look after each other.


Round my way, the police hardly turn up, just give you a crime number
for the insurance.

However, without fail, a civilian forensics technician will visit the
scene of the crime and, of course, wonders do they perform.

The reality is that those already known to the police and fully
inserted on the DNA database commit most of the crime. People in that
situation can't so much as fart in a lift anymore and get away with
it.

The problem isn't catching them the problem is what to do with them,
as invariably drugs will be playing a large part in their behaviour.

My magistrate neighbour had some thirty something bloke up before her
the other day for a stealing a 99p pack of bacon from the convenience
store. As she said, "What am I supposed to do with them? Here he is
thirty something and he can't even steal a pack of bacon without
getting caught, it's pathetic."

Drug addicts are out of control in need of treatment but there is
precious little treatment to be had and neither will there be, or
probably should there be, whilst there are waiting lists for hip
operations.

If it's any consolation to you and assuming he was on drugs then he
will surely pay a far higher price eventually (pretty soon usually)
than anything the law can throw at him.

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If it's any consolation to you and assuming he was on drugs then he
will surely pay a far higher price eventually (pretty soon usually)
than anything the law can throw at him.

Thinking about it he was far scruffier than if he was going on a
building site for the day and his face was covered in spots. Perhaps
this is his way of feeding a habit.

Personally I'd like to see all drugs dreciminalised for adult use. It
would stop the crooks making fortunes, and stop people needing to steal
quite so much to afford them.

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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:17:46 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK

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Adrian writes


So watch your valuables on the East[sic] London Line, the vermin
pick pockets
are about !!


You failed to retain his testicles. Now he can breed more scum


Everyone at work said the same and I was carrying a hefty umbrella. But
when it happens you realise no one else is aware of what happened and
you're going to be bashing the crap out of a stranger with no apparent
motive.


I'm told that an errant finger bent backwards loses resistance
beyond a certain point. Done quickly enough you needn't feel guilt; the
perp may feel something else...

It is funny when this sort of thing happens. We all like to feel we'd
behave in some macho, but ultimately heroic way :-)

I just looked at him, looking uncomfortable for about 30 seconds until
the train pulled into Gospel Oak. Jamming my brolly into him just seemed
inappropriate for some reason. Maybe that's what these guys rely on,
civilised people playing by the rules ?

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Edward Cowling "Must Go - Tony Blair says he's not going !"




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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:28:39 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
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Sadly we're living in an age where we have to look after each other.


Sadly Edward we can't even do what you are suggesting if I am passing
your house and some ******* is just climbing in through a window I
can't grab him and smash his head to pulp which is what should happen,
oh no if I did that the damned pigs would be there in seconds had I
just reported the fact that a robbery was about to take place they
would call on you in two or three days time and if you couldn't
provide them with a name ,description, and what the guy had for
breakfast on his 21st birthday you would get " can't do much about it
sir we shall be on our way " .


Despite being angry I can't really say I approve of vigilante action, as
it always seems to be the innocent who get hurt. Remember all those
idiots driving paediatricians out of town ? :-)

It's just that when I was burgled I was inundated by bits of paper from
the police all about my rights, who I could talk to, and what they
intended to do. Yes I was kept informed but I would have preferred if
all the energy had gone into catching the guy. It all seems to be about
box ticking these days.

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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
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It is funny when this sort of thing happens. We all like to feel we'd
behave in some macho, but ultimately heroic way :-)

I just looked at him, looking uncomfortable for about 30 seconds until the
train pulled into Gospel Oak. Jamming my brolly into him just seemed
inappropriate for some reason. Maybe that's what these guys rely on,
civilised people playing by the rules ?

Saying VERY loudly and clearly, "Oy, Spottyclock! Get your hands outta my
pocket!" makes them very uncomfortable and makes other people take a good
look and remember them.


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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:00:28 +0100, wrote:

I was talking to a dog breeder friend the other
day and she told me she was selling up and moving to Canada and taking
her dogs with her I just said I don't blame you one bit and she
replied this country is total ****e these days .


One less dog breeder in the UK has got to be a good move.

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