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chunky munky June 18th 07 04:34 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
On Jun 18, 3:10 pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?


Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to
Stanmore, the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from
Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands of people
milling about wondering what to do next.


On the other hand, Chiltern Railways were doing a phenomenal job getting the
crowds away from Wembley Stadium in both directions. Services from
Marylebone were enhanced by additional trains ex-Wembley Light Maintenance
Depot, where additional stock had been gathered, running in six and
seven-car formations to High Wycombe or Aylesbury, between the timetabled
services. Additionally, stock was being run into the turnback siding and
back into the up platform to provide additional seven-coach trains into
Marylebone. All very efficiently handled, with crowds segregated immediately
that they left the stadium approach road. I left the stadium at 22:05 and
was on a train heading north at 22:19. No complaints whatsoever.




LUL organised extra Jubilee and Bakerloo line trains at the north end
of the lines and over 60 buses were drafted in to run to Golders Green
and Baker Street (not bad for a Sunday night!). The Met line Service
Control also have a very good working relationship with Chiltern so
this came in handy too!

I expect the Scaffold Contractors will now have lots of paperwork to
do!

From the text messages I was getting regarding the incident, I think

LUL did a very good job, and provided a good little test for when
there is a big football crowd!


June 18th 07 06:35 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

"chunky munky" wrote in message
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On Jun 18, 3:10 pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?


Amongst other things, Jubilee was closed from Wembley Park to
Stanmore, the Met seemed to be shutdown altogether; Bakerloo from
Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands of people
milling about wondering what to do next.


On the other hand, Chiltern Railways were doing a phenomenal job getting
the
crowds away from Wembley Stadium in both directions. Services from
Marylebone were enhanced by additional trains ex-Wembley Light
Maintenance
Depot, where additional stock had been gathered, running in six and
seven-car formations to High Wycombe or Aylesbury, between the timetabled
services. Additionally, stock was being run into the turnback siding and
back into the up platform to provide additional seven-coach trains into
Marylebone. All very efficiently handled, with crowds segregated
immediately
that they left the stadium approach road. I left the stadium at 22:05 and
was on a train heading north at 22:19. No complaints whatsoever.




LUL organised extra Jubilee and Bakerloo line trains at the north end
of the lines and over 60 buses were drafted in to run to Golders Green
and Baker Street (not bad for a Sunday night!). The Met line Service
Control also have a very good working relationship with Chiltern so
this came in handy too!

I expect the Scaffold Contractors will now have lots of paperwork to
do!

From the text messages I was getting regarding the incident, I think

LUL did a very good job, and provided a good little test for when
there is a big football crowd!


Does anyone know what time the scaffolding was eventually moved?



Jack Taylor June 18th 07 07:46 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
wrote:

Does anyone know what time the scaffolding was eventually moved?


A warning announcement was made within the stadium at about 19:30 that there
was no southbound Metropolitan line and that an update would be issued at
the end of the concert. As promised, at just after 22:00, fans were advised
that there was still no southbound Met and passengers were advised to make
alternative arrangements, travelling via Wembley Central and Wembley Stadium
if possible or by using the Jubilee line.



June 18th 07 08:22 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Does anyone know what time the scaffolding was eventually moved?


A warning announcement was made within the stadium at about 19:30 that
there was no southbound Metropolitan line and that an update would be
issued at the end of the concert. As promised, at just after 22:00, fans
were advised that there was still no southbound Met and passengers were
advised to make alternative arrangements, travelling via Wembley Central
and Wembley Stadium if possible or by using the Jubilee line.


Sounds like the TFL were informing customers well.



Barry Salter June 18th 07 08:42 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
aroojequ wrote:
Those of you lucky enough to have gone to this concert yesterday, will
know of the pathetic attempts by LU to get the crowds away in a timely
manner. Doesn't bode well for the Olymics, does it?

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.

Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...

Cheers,

Barry

Jack Taylor June 18th 07 11:16 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
Barry Salter wrote:

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.

Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...


I suspect that you're referring to the Saturday gig, Barry. The OP was
referring to the Sunday gig.

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun, my brother-in-law and
nephew had to get back to Cambridge and had to call on a friend to pick them
up at Stevenage as they missed the last Cambridge train (I haven't spoken to
them to check, yet). Certainly on the Met line there were about 40 fans in
t-shirts that joined the last down Chiltern at H-o-t-H that night.

On Sunday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:00 to 22:00 and were
minute-perfect. The problems were with the up Metropolitan line, where
scaffolding had collapsed onto the track near Willesden Green. Elsewhere
there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.



asdf June 18th 07 11:31 PM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:07:18 GMT, wrote:

Bakerloo from Wembley Central ran the last train and left thousands

of people milling about wondering what to do next.

What did they do?


Well what were they meant to do with the Bakerloo line keep it open all
night?


Incidentally, AFAIK one pair of tracks from Wembley Central to Euston
normally stays open all night.

(Organising relief trains would probably be too much hassle compared
to just using buses, though.)

chunky munky June 19th 07 03:39 AM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
On Jun 19, 12:16 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
Barry Salter wrote:

The one thing you neglect to mention is that the concert actually
overran, due to a late start as a result of flooding, and didn't
actually finish 'til around 22:45.


Net result: When I got to Baker Street on my way home from work, at
around 23:00, I couldn't board an Eastbound service as they were all
full and standing...


I suspect that you're referring to the Saturday gig, Barry. The OP was
referring to the Sunday gig.

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun, my brother-in-law and
nephew had to get back to Cambridge and had to call on a friend to pick them
up at Stevenage as they missed the last Cambridge train (I haven't spoken to
them to check, yet). Certainly on the Met line there were about 40 fans in
t-shirts that joined the last down Chiltern at H-o-t-H that night.

On Sunday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:00 to 22:00 and were
minute-perfect. The problems were with the up Metropolitan line, where
scaffolding had collapsed onto the track near Willesden Green. Elsewhere
there were no problems AFAIK in dispersing the crowds.



The Met resumed at 23.20, after they managed to get the pole off and
check the track and equipment


sweek June 19th 07 09:11 AM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
The Jubilee's engineering works between Stanmore and Wembley Park
meant that there was a reduced service, as trains could only reverse
at Wembley Park itself. Those engineering works were planned and
booked before the Muse concert, according to TFL, and there was no way
of cancelling them once they found out about the concert.


Michael Hoffman June 19th 07 11:48 AM

MUSE concert at Wembley
 
Jack Taylor wrote:

On Saturday Muse were scheduled on stage from 20:30 to 22:30, according to
the running order - the gig may well have overrun,


It rained earlier in the day so the stage was wet. There was a delay
while a bunch of people came out with pushbrooms and towels to clean it off.
--
Michael Hoffman


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