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On Jul 5, 7:16 am, Paul Terry wrote:
A rather significant change occurred in late 2004: the up lines (but not
the down lines) were swapped, giving the following pattern (from north
to south)

up slow
up fast
down slow
down fast

This would mean that down services to Wimbledon via East Putney would
have to share the Windsor line, but up services (if the Putney flyover
was to be reinstated) would have to share the slow line.

Probably still not impossible, but it would involve some complex
timetabling - especially since timings of both Windsor and stopping
services are already heavily constrained by the four level crossings on
the two-track part of the line between Barnes and Richmond.


Future Airtrack requirements from Waterloo to Heathrow also need to
factored into the calculations. There also the question of acess to
the Latchmere and Ludgate routes at CJ.


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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Paul Terry wrote:

In message , John Rowland
writes

In 2000 or so, track utilisation on the Windsor lines was very low
(peak service of 6tph on each of the 4 tracks between Barnes and
Waterloo, IIRC) and I don't think much has changed since.


Ah, okay, no problem then.

A rather significant change occurred in late 2004: the up lines (but not
the down lines) were swapped, giving the following pattern (from north
to south)

up slow
up fast
down slow
down fast

This would mean that down services to Wimbledon via East Putney would
have to share the Windsor line, but up services (if the Putney flyover
was to be reinstated) would have to share the slow line.


Really, you want both directions on the slows; that means either a new
viaduct or a flat junction. Given that there's only 6 tph on each track,
the flat junction doesn't seem to bad.

Probably still not impossible, but it would involve some complex
timetabling - especially since timings of both Windsor and stopping
services are already heavily constrained by the four level crossings on
the two-track part of the line between Barnes and Richmond.


Ah yes, that.

tom

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On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 04:54:37PM +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:

"For instance, they will be able to get off a Southampton train at Clapham
Junction, go around the orbital and catch a Hastings train from Peckham,


That would be particularly stupid when you could just get a train to
Hastings from Clapham Junction, or travel via Brighton.

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