There'll be spare funds kicking around with Crossrail cancelled and
the West London Tram. So how about this:

50% of Kingston town centre is to be rebuilt, heavily financed by
Gazprom the self-pronounced "world's future biggest company".

Tolworth to be resculpted by Tesco wanting to demonstrate "good
neighboughliness" credentials.

Major redelopment on derelictland adjoining Sutton Station.

Heathrow' s third runway to be announced shortly. Essential therefore
to show pollution can be reduced. Obviously important for security to
keep private vehicles well away, and a need for some sort of monorail
or tram.

Ken wants 6 "gateways" to London - Park-'n-Ride at Heathrow for the M4
and Tolworth for the A3 ? Fast links into a Eurostar-less and
redeveloped Waterloo from two of London's very busiest gateways? Road
pricing at these heavily-polluted pinch-points?

So...

...an extension to the Croydon tram link via Wimbledon, Sutton,
Kingston, Tolworth, Richmond, Chessington WOA, Leatherhead M25 Park-'n-
Ride (the old scheme) plus Hampton Court, the new city of Feltham, and
the soon-to-be-announced Heathrow Terminal 6.

Kingston, Richmond and Sutton Lib Dem Council all seem keen to see it
happen

Crossrail is cancelled now? I have no idea where you've gotten that
idea from.

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There'll be spare funds kicking around with Crossrail cancelled

Really? I think you've misread something. It's very much NOT cancelled.

On Aug 6, 10:10 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
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There'll be spare funds kicking around with Crossrail cancelled

Really? I think you've misread something. It's very much NOT cancelled.

Apart from anything else, given that the problem with Crossrail is the
lack of funding, its cancellation would be unlikely to release a
penny...

Jonn

On 6 Aug, 12:08, wrote:
On Aug 6, 10:10 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:

wrote:
There'll be spare funds kicking around with Crossrail cancelled

Really? I think you've misread something. It's very much NOT cancelled.

Apart from anything else, given that the problem with Crossrail is the
lack of funding, its cancellation would be unlikely to release a
penny...

The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a near-
certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is attempted while the
Olympics is being delivered.

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On 6 Aug, 12:08, wrote:
On Aug 6, 10:10 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:

wrote:
There'll be spare funds kicking around with Crossrail cancelled

Really? I think you've misread something. It's very much NOT
cancelled.

Apart from anything else, given that the problem with Crossrail is
the lack of funding, its cancellation would be unlikely to release a
penny...

The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a near-
certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is attempted while the
Olympics is being delivered.

.... which is probably why serious construction work is likely to be
delayed till after the Olympics

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The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a
near- certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is attempted
while the Olympics is being delivered.

... which is probably why serious construction work is likely to be
delayed till after the Olympics

No major infrastructure projects are proposed in the lead up to the
Olympics, not because of cost but because of the danger of impacting upon
the works. That's why Thameslink is phased, with the major construction
works at London Bridge being left until after 2012. The only one that should
be completed in advance is the upgrade of the Tottenham and Hampstead line,
in order to provide relief for the Stratford area around the time of the
Games.

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The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a
near- certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is attempted
while the Olympics is being delivered.

... which is probably why serious construction work is likely to be
delayed till after the Olympics

How long will the tunnelling take until if they only start in 2012/13? My
recollection of the Victoria and Jubilee Lines is that tunnelling is
quite a long term job.

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Colin Rosenstiel

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The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a
near- certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is attempted
while the Olympics is being delivered.

... which is probably why serious construction work is likely to be
delayed till after the Olympics

How long will the tunnelling take until if they only start in
2012/13? My recollection of the Victoria and Jubilee Lines is that
tunnelling is quite a long term job.

I think tunneling is much faster these days, but the most complicated
element will be (re-)building the huge central London stations. Each is
linked to at least two existing lines and will have numerous entrances,
escalators and lifts. It will all be hugely disuptive, not least because
the stations are all in built-up, expensive bits of London.

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The Institution of Civil Engineering in its July mag is citing a
near- certain and massive cost over-run if Crossrail is
attempted while the Olympics is being delivered.

... which is probably why serious construction work is likely to
be delayed till after the Olympics

How long will the tunnelling take until if they only start in
2012/13? My recollection of the Victoria and Jubilee Lines is that
tunnelling is quite a long term job.

I think tunneling is much faster these days, but the most
complicated element will be (re-)building the huge central London
stations. Each is linked to at least two existing lines and will
have numerous entrances, escalators and lifts. It will all be
hugely disuptive, not least because the stations are all in
built-up, expensive bits of London.

I'll believe it when I see it. I'll have plenty of time to watch as I
expect to be retired by then.

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Colin Rosenstiel