In message , John
writes
Do you own a diesel van-mini bus-truck- or any other type of diesel engined
vehicle? if so the check out the TFL website and search for LEZ (low
emmissions zone)and see what Ken Livingstone and TFL are going to introduce
from next year (a daily charge of £100 or £200 to drive anywhere inside the
M25).

Are going to let him getaway with this?

He already has.

All London's (diesel) taxis must have their exhausts upgraded to the
latest Euro levels. This has meant retro fitting exhausts on older
taxis, including the TX1's, at an average cost in excess of £2,000 +
VAT. To offset this the trade was given an extra 20p per fare increase
just over 2 years ago. On the number of fares I do per shift it will
take me another 3 years to get back the £2,300 mine will cost me.

I can understand the desire to make the environment better and as a taxi
driver sitting in traffic I would benefit from it, but to have to make
everyone retro fit rather than allow for natural turnover with a higher
standard for newer vehicles is not going to win many friends in motoring
circles. What about the costs - they will be passed on somehow so how
does that benefit people?

--
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England

Mike Hughes wrote:

What about the costs - they will be passed on somehow so how
does that benefit people?

The cost to people's health is already high. People who take taxis are less
likely to be those affected by living near heavy traffic.

E.

eastender ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

What about the costs - they will be passed on somehow so how
does that benefit people?

The cost to people's health is already high. People who take taxis are
less likely to be those affected by living near heavy traffic.

Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.

Adrian wrote:

Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.

Well, that's a sample of one. Keep going and you might have something of
statistical significance.

E.

eastender ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.

Well, that's a sample of one. Keep going and you might have something of
statistical significance.

There's about 150 flats in that building alone. One of the other flats on
the market at the mo for £2.6m.

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap hovel?

Adrian wrote:

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap hovel?

Did you not see the words 'less likely' in what I said?

'Disadvantaged urban areas tend to be characterised by high traffic volume,
leading to increased levels of air and noise pollution and higher rates of
road traffic accidents without the benefits of access to private transport.'

http://www.archive.official-document.../ih/part2d.htm

E.

eastender ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap
hovel?

Did you not see the words 'less likely' in what I said?

'Disadvantaged urban areas tend to be characterised by high traffic
volume, leading to increased levels of air and noise pollution and
higher rates of road traffic accidents without the benefits of access
to private transport.'

I'm sure that is the case, nationally.

However you can't extrapolate from that to the (unusual) case of Central
London - the fact is that there are plenty of affluent people in London who
also live on very busy truck routes. I'm not sure why you want to turn it
into a class-war issue, but if that floats your boat, go right ahead.

"Mike Hughes" wrote in message
...
What about the costs - they will be passed on somehow so how does that
benefit people?

I'd say "living longer" is quite a benefit.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

In article ,
(Mike Hughes) wrote:

I can understand the desire to make the environment better and as a
taxi driver sitting in traffic I would benefit from it, but to have
to make everyone retro fit rather than allow for natural turnover
with a higher standard for newer vehicles is not going to win many
friends in motoring circles. What about the costs - they will be
passed on somehow so how does that benefit people?

An alternative applied in Cambridge banning vehicles over 8 years old
from being licensed as Hackneys. The basis for doing it that way is the
confusion over standards preventing them from requiring retro-fitting.

How did Ken do it? Special legislation in London again?

--
Colin Rosenstiel