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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:48:38 GMT, Sarah Brown
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No, you can't (at least with PAYG - I doubt Oysters with Travelcards
loaded are any different though). Oysters don't work like a prepay
card for buying single tickets - it's more complicated than that. It
functions as a set of prepaid singles up to a point, and then caps the
charge, so all your subsequent journeys that day are free. As a
result, passing it back would be like using the same one-day
travelcard for two people, i.e. fare evasion.


For similar reasons, an Oyster loaded with a travelcard can only be
used by one person. Oysters which are only loaded with prepay value
can be shared, but cannot be used by more than one person at a time.
Presumably they can't be used by more than one person within one day,
but I can't find this stated definitively from a cursory look at the
TfL website

Martin

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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:48:38 GMT, Sarah Brown
wrote:

No, you can't (at least with PAYG - I doubt Oysters with Travelcards
loaded are any different though). Oysters don't work like a prepay
card for buying single tickets - it's more complicated than that. It
functions as a set of prepaid singles up to a point, and then caps the
charge, so all your subsequent journeys that day are free. As a
result, passing it back would be like using the same one-day
travelcard for two people, i.e. fare evasion.


For similar reasons, an Oyster loaded with a travelcard can only be
used by one person. Oysters which are only loaded with prepay value
can be shared, but cannot be used by more than one person at a time.
Presumably they can't be used by more than one person within one day,
but I can't find this stated definitively from a cursory look at the
TfL website


Assuming you mean pre-pay, of course they can. They
are valid for use by the holder, whoever that may be on
the specific journey.

Oh, You're worried about capping, well there no way that
they can enforce that, is there? This would seem to be
a perk of the system.

tim



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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:48:38 GMT, Sarah Brown
wrote:

No, you can't (at least with PAYG - I doubt Oysters with Travelcards
loaded are any different though). Oysters don't work like a prepay
card for buying single tickets - it's more complicated than that. It
functions as a set of prepaid singles up to a point, and then caps the
charge, so all your subsequent journeys that day are free. As a
result, passing it back would be like using the same one-day
travelcard for two people, i.e. fare evasion.


For similar reasons, an Oyster loaded with a travelcard can only be
used by one person. Oysters which are only loaded with prepay value
can be shared, but cannot be used by more than one person at a time.
Presumably they can't be used by more than one person within one day,
but I can't find this stated definitively from a cursory look at the
TfL website


Assuming you mean pre-pay, of course they can. They
are valid for use by the holder, whoever that may be on
the specific journey.

Oh, You're worried about capping, well there no way that
they can enforce that, is there? This would seem to be
a perk of the system.

tim


I appreciate all the answers. It has also dawned on me - takes me awhile -
a good reason why the difference: Chicago's Transit System (CTA) charges a
fixed rate per ride regardless of distance. One block or cross town. London
is a zone system so multiple card users would/could be difficult.

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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:36:57 +0100, "tim....."
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Oh, You're worried about capping, well there no way that
they can enforce that, is there? This would seem to be
a perk of the system.


It's not really any different to people passing around One Day
Travelcards and (I think) weeklies. This is practically impossible to
enforce. Given this, I don't understand why they don't just make them
de-facto transferrable.

Neil

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