Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

"New station at Shepherd's Bush opening November 2007". So it says on
the Rail Services in West London map in the new edition of the West
London Yellow Pages, which has just arrived here.

Maybe they have actually got it right this time. No sign on the map of
Imperial Wharf.
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Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

"thoss" wrote in message
...
"New station at Shepherd's Bush opening November 2007". So it says on
the Rail Services in West London map in the new edition of the West
London Yellow Pages, which has just arrived here.


You would have to suspect then, that although looking all but complete now,
the opening will be postponed so that it can be the star of the show for the
Overground opening PR ceremony, as predicted in previous threads...

Paul

Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

On 9 Sep, 09:53, thoss wrote:
"New station at Shepherd's Bush opening November 2007". So it says on
the Rail Services in West London map in the new edition of the West
London Yellow Pages, which has just arrived here.

Maybe they have actually got it right this time. No sign on the map of
Imperial Wharf.


I'm far from convinced that the Yellow Pages is an authoritative guide
for such matters!

Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

At 14:58:20 on Sun, 9 Sep 2007 Paul Scott opined:-


"thoss" wrote in message
...
"New station at Shepherd's Bush opening November 2007". So it says on
the Rail Services in West London map in the new edition of the West
London Yellow Pages, which has just arrived here.


You would have to suspect then, that although looking all but complete now,
the opening will be postponed so that it can be the star of the show for the
Overground opening PR ceremony, as predicted in previous threads...

Another Ken photo-opportunity.
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Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

thoss wrote:

At 14:58:20 on Sun, 9 Sep 2007 Paul Scott opined:-


"thoss" wrote in message
...
"New station at Shepherd's Bush opening November 2007". So it says on
the Rail Services in West London map in the new edition of the West
London Yellow Pages, which has just arrived here.


You would have to suspect then, that although looking all but complete now,
the opening will be postponed so that it can be the star of the show for the
Overground opening PR ceremony, as predicted in previous threads...

Another Ken photo-opportunity.


As a frequent if irregular user of the NLL and WLL then I say great,
bring it on.

Even if all that happens is that the seat cushions get cleaned and the
train floors get mopped then it'll be a great improvement.

Anyway it's not yet apparent that the opening of Shepherd's Bush will
be timed to coincide with the launch of TfL's London Overground. On
the one hand then yes, it would make for great publicity and a big-
bang beginning to the new regime, but on the other hand I was at
Shepherd's Bush not so long ago and there was still a significant
amount of work going on at street level. If the entrance to the
station isn't ready then the station isn't ready. I will be up that
way again soon and will report back on the latest situation on the
ground.

Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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Anyway it's not yet apparent that the opening of Shepherd's Bush will
be timed to coincide with the launch of TfL's London Overground. On
the one hand then yes, it would make for great publicity and a big-
bang beginning to the new regime, but on the other hand I was at
Shepherd's Bush not so long ago and there was still a significant
amount of work going on at street level. If the entrance to the
station isn't ready then the station isn't ready. I will be up that
way again soon and will report back on the latest situation on the
ground.


I saw yet another post in a forum sugesting that November 11 is intended for
the opening date, asserting that it would be branded Overground from the off
because it had no existing signage. Which is odd because I distinctly
remember the Silverlink style signs. Did you get the chance for another look
at the site?

Paul S

Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

Paul Scott wrote:
I saw yet another post in a forum sugesting that November 11 is intended for
the opening date, asserting that it would be branded Overground from the off
because it had no existing signage. Which is odd because I distinctly
remember the Silverlink style signs. Did you get the chance for another look
at the site?

I went for a look a couple of weeks ago. The platforms signs have
Silverlink swooshes on them. I couldn't get that close to the main
building, but it has a giant set of rail double arrows in the window
above the door (possibly etched on the glass).

U

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Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
. uk...
Paul Scott wrote:
I saw yet another post in a forum sugesting that November 11 is intended
for the opening date, asserting that it would be branded Overground from
the off because it had no existing signage. Which is odd because I
distinctly remember the Silverlink style signs. Did you get the chance
for another look at the site?

I went for a look a couple of weeks ago. The platforms signs have
Silverlink swooshes on them. I couldn't get that close to the main
building, but it has a giant set of rail double arrows in the window above
the door (possibly etched on the glass).


That should be ok, isn't the convention TfL have decided upon that the NR
and 'Overground' logos will both be used outside the station if NR services
(Southern) also stop there? I remember someone posted a rather epic TfL
guide to signage a while back, can't find it at the moment though...

Paul

Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Paul Scott wrote:

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
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Paul Scott wrote:

I saw yet another post in a forum sugesting that November 11 is
intended for the opening date, asserting that it would be branded
Overground from the off because it had no existing signage. Which is
odd because I distinctly remember the Silverlink style signs.

I went for a look a couple of weeks ago. The platforms signs have
Silverlink swooshes on them. I couldn't get that close to the main
building, but it has a giant set of rail double arrows in the window
above the door (possibly etched on the glass).

That should be ok, isn't the convention TfL have decided upon that the NR
and 'Overground' logos will both be used outside the station if NR services
(Southern) also stop there?

So is the NLR not going to count as National Rail? I had this vague idea
that it was essentially franchised to TfL, which is then conceeding it to
Laing MTR, so although it would be part of the London Overground, it would
also be part of National Rail. Bit like the futile system of old, where
the king grants fiefs to dukes, dukes sub-grant bits of them to barons,
etc. It's going to be run along NR lines in technical, operational, etc
terms, no?

tom

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Shepherd's Bush WLL again
 

Tom Anderson wrote:
So is the NLR not going to count as National Rail? I had this vague idea
that it was essentially franchised to TfL, which is then conceeding it
to Laing MTR, so although it would be part of the London Overground, it
would also be part of National Rail. Bit like the futile system of old,
where the king grants fiefs to dukes, dukes sub-grant bits of them to
barons, etc. It's going to be run along NR lines in technical,
operational, etc terms, no?

Yes and no. My interpretation is the NLR half will be 100% National Rail
service, but the ELR half will work like a tube service that runs onto
National Rail tracks at the ends (which was what it was going to be
before the recent invention of Overground). Thus, as I understand it:

- All NLR stations are National Rail stations and have the arrows;
- ELR stations currently on the National Rail network retain their
arrows, because other TOCs may still stop;
- But: ELR stations not on the National Rail network (Surrey Quays to
Dalston Junction) won't have arrows.

More he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...ardIssue03.pdf

The rule appears to be that the NR logo goes first when another TOC
stops there, and the station is owned by Network Rail.

U

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