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347 Romford Market - South Ockendon covers some pleasant semi-rural mileage I echo the 275 recommendation - a slightly odd route, but (away from Walthamstow) often a brisk ride through changing vistas. What about some of the routes in the Purley/Warlingham/Woodmansterne areas? This is fairly hilly territory, and I've often thought I could enjoy a ride on the top deck around these parts, but never made time for it. In fact, any route recommendations in this area? Chris |
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On 24 Sep, 22:15, "Chris Read" wrote:
What about some of the routes in the Purley/Warlingham/Woodmansterne areas? This is fairly hilly territory, and I've often thought I could enjoy a ride on the top deck around these parts, but never made time for it. In fact, any route recommendations in this area? Try the 409 from East Croydon Station. It's a long lived survivor from LT Country Bus days and still goes to East Grinstead, miles out in the country, albeit via a very slightly different route these days. It's surprising how quickly you leave behind the very urban feel of Croydon as it trundles through leafy suburbs and heads off through very sparsly populated areas and zig zags across Surrey picking up various towns otherwise unserved by any buses at all. It even at one point back-tracks on itself along the same road in the Farleigh area! It's usually a single deck vehicle, although double deckers are sometimes used - despite the fact that it it usually only has a couple of people on board. Allow yourself plenty of time as it must be one of the slowest ways of getting anywhere, which is why almost no one uses it, apart from the fact that it only runs once an hour and stops running at about 6p.m. and not at all on Sundays. Welcome to public transport outside London! Peter |
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On Sep 25, 12:02 am, Peter Heather wrote:
On 24 Sep, 22:15, "Chris Read" wrote: What about some of the routes in the Purley/Warlingham/Woodmansterne areas? This is fairly hilly territory, and I've often thought I could enjoy a ride on the top deck around these parts, but never made time for it. In fact, any route recommendations in this area? Try the 409 from East Croydon Station. It's a long lived survivor from LT Country Bus days and still goes to East Grinstead, miles out in the country, albeit via a very slightly different route these days. It's surprising how quickly you leave behind the very urban feel of Croydon as it trundles through leafy suburbs and heads off through very sparsly populated areas and zig zags across Surrey picking up various towns otherwise unserved by any buses at all. It even at one point back-tracks on itself along the same road in the Farleigh area! It's usually a single deck vehicle, although double deckers are sometimes used - despite the fact that it it usually only has a couple of people on board. Allow yourself plenty of time as it must be one of the slowest ways of getting anywhere, which is why almost no one uses it, apart from the fact that it only runs once an hour and stops running at about 6p.m. and not at all on Sundays. Welcome to public transport outside London! Peter The 409 is a rather long route; apparently it takes about 2 hours: Imberhorne School London Road / Yew Lane London Road / Sackville Lane London Road / Buckhurst Way London Road/ Newlands Crescent East Grinstead Fire Station East Grinstead Station East Grinstead Fire Station London Road / Railway Approach London Road / Rices Hill East Grinstead, War Memorial Sackville College Sackville School Woodberry Avenue / The Oaks Harmans Drive Estcots Drive / Sycamore Drive Estcots Drive / Court Crescent East Court Queen Victoria Hospital Holtye Road / Quarry Rise Stone Quarry Estate The Larches Wilderwick Farm The Approach Dormans Station Turning Dormansland School Dormansland / Memorial Dormansland / The Plough St Piers Lane Lingfield Racecourse Town Hill / Station Road Lingfield / War Memorial Lingfield / Church Road Little Lullenden Saxbys Lane / Crowhurst Road Lingfield Common/Hare & Hounds Meadowside Ray Bridge Tandridge Lane Blindley Heath / Albion House Blindley Heath / Blue Anchor Cottenhams Blindley Heath / Church Byers Lane Anglefield Corner South Godstone / The Mount South Godstone / RSPCA Centre Godstone Station St Stephen's School Woodlands Drive Harts Lane Leigh Mill Cottages Walkingstead Pond The Enterdent Tilburstow Hill Road Godstone Hare and Hounds Lindley Road Godstone Fire Station Quarry Road Tupwood Lane White Knobs Way Longsdon Way Caterham, Caterham Rail Station Caterham Hospital Court Road (Caterham) Golden Lion Westway Common/Douglas Blunton Court Road / Clifton Arms Hambledon Road Caterham Barracks Old Broad Street (Caterham) Addison Road (Caterham) Buxton Lane Macaulay Road Portley Lane Buxton Avenue Salmons Lane Green Kenley Radio Technical Laborat Badgers Walk Whyteleafe, Whyteleafe Rail Station Warlingham, Upper Warlingham Rail Station Oakley Road /Warlingham Westview Road Paddock Walk Westhall Road Homefield Road / Warlingham Hillbury Road / Warlingham Warlingham Green Marks Road Limpsfield Road Warlingham Sainsburys St Christophers Church Green Hill Lane Green Lane Parsonage Close Farleigh / The Harrow Inn Daniels Lane Great Park Chelsham Common Daniels Lane Beech Way Selsdon Nature Reserve West Ravenshead Close Hawthorn Crescent Dulverton Road/Selsdon Library Queenhill Road Brent Road / Farley Road Littleheath Road Farley Road / Croham Valley Rd Ballards Way Manor Way / Croham Valley Road Croham Hurst School Campden Road South Croydon Station Elmhurst School Birdhurst Gardens Coombe Road / Park Hill Road Selborne Road Fairfield Road Park Hill Road Garrick Crescent East Croydon Station Croydon / Fairfield Halls |
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On 24 Sep, 22:15, "Chris Read" wrote: The 409 is a rather long route; apparently it takes about 2 hours: --snipped-- Which is why I said few people travel on it. It's about 16 miles by road between Croydon and East Grinstead so is averaging 8 miles an hour. The reason being that the bus dives up side roads all over the place in the hope of finding passengers. It finds few people because it spends so long wandering about Surrey that they would rather drive if they have a car (pretty well essential outside Ken's Kingdom) or go by train if doing a large part of the journey. Peter |
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Peter Heather wrote:
On 24 Sep, 22:15, "Chris Read" wrote: The 409 is a rather long route; apparently it takes about 2 hours: --snipped-- ... It finds few people because it spends so long wandering about Surrey that they would rather drive if they have a car ... Not exactly scenic but on the theme of wandering Surrey buses an interesting sight is the 479 at Bookham station which religiously leaves one minute before the next train arrives (if it stops at all - it does like to scream in and out of the car park avoiding eye contact with anyone) thus avoiding picking up anyone who might conceivably like to use it as a connecting service. mf |
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Mystery Flyer wrote Not exactly scenic but on the theme of wandering Surrey buses an interesting sight is the 479 at Bookham station which religiously leaves one minute before the next train arrives (if it stops at all - it does like to scream in and out of the car park avoiding eye contact with anyone) thus avoiding picking up anyone who might conceivably like to use it as a connecting service. So tell Surrey CC, who, it seems, pay for it, what you want it to do. passenger.transport at surreycc.gov.uk But be very clear since your description suggests that it is currently usable for someone wishing to catch the 'next train'. (paper timetables, I haven't checked online) 479 Bookham to L'head & Epsom 29 & 59 479 To Guildford at 52 479 From L'head & Epsom 24 & 52 479 From Guildford at 59 Rail Bookham to W'loo, L'head & Epsom (from Guildford) 21 & 51 Rail to Guildford (from W'loo, L'head & Epsom) 29 & 59 -- Mike D |
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On 25 Sep, 00:02, Peter Heather wrote:
Try the 409 from East Croydon Station. It's a long lived survivor from LT Country Bus days and still goes to East Grinstead, miles out in the country, albeit via a very slightly different route these days. It's surprising how quickly you leave behind the very urban feel of Croydon as it trundles through leafy suburbs and heads off through very sparsly populated areas and zig zags across Surrey picking up various towns otherwise unserved by any buses at all. It even at one point back-tracks on itself along the same road in the Farleigh area! It's usually a single deck vehicle, although double deckers are sometimes used - despite the fact that it it usually only has a couple of people on board. Allow yourself plenty of time as it must be one of the slowest ways of getting anywhere, which is why almost no one uses it, apart from the fact that it only runs once an hour and stops running at about 6p.m. and not at all on Sundays. Welcome to public transport outside London! I quite often do almost the whole route, East Croydon Station to East Grinstead High Street, on Saturdays. I don't do it as often as I used to, because recently I have been doing my projectionist thing on many Saturdays. I may well go tomorrow; I will be at my main job next Saturday, and then projecting for the next three, so I won't be free again until at least the end of October. The last bus back from East Grinstead was at 16:50 until recently, but I think it runs a few minutes later now. What was the reason for it returning to Metrobus after just a short time with Southdown PSV? I'm doubtful how long this route will survive; it seems to load very lightly. It's £5 return from Croydo to East Grinstead. For a short journey, the 405 to Redhill can be quite a pleasant ride. I want to do the route from East Grinstead to Tonbridge one day; basically it's the replacement for the old railway. I'd also like to nominate a couple of routes that are nowhere near London, so a bit OT. Firstly, there's the X20 from Stratford-upon-Avon to Birmingham. There used be be a X50 route a few years ago from Stratford to Oxford, but that doesn't seem to run now, except for a couple of trips on Sundays. Lastly, to get even further from London, the MTA route S79 in New York. This runs from outside the Subway station one stop before the terminus of the R line in Brooklyn and almost immediately crosses the Verrazano Narrows Bridge to Staten Island; that's why it's a 'S' route, not a 'B'. It runs to Staten Island Mall, near the centre of the Island. As I said, a long way from London but well worth doing if you happen to be over there. The Subway fare is $2 (about £1 now), but you then get a free transfer to the bus with a Metrocard, so the whole journey is only $2, even if you started from a subway station right up in the Bronx. How's that for value? |
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