Euston Island
 

On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:
Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth

Thanks, that clears a lot of things up. Do you think that anyone
anywhere would have a photograph of the island platform with the
stairs from the bridges?

Your 1908 platform photo is quite amusing - I like the way there's a
lamppost down there and it looks like toy trains. But I especially
like the fact that it looks like there's a tardis at the bottom of the
stairs.

From the old photo of the Charing Cross branch platforms, it looks
like they must have rebuilt that end of the station completely. When
they built the victoria line, and the new entrance to the platform,
how did they build the stairs down onto the platforms while keeping
the old entrance up to the platforms open? I suppose it would make
sense if the stairs down onto the southbound platform were built
first, and used as an exit as well while they built the other
staircase?

But that would only work if the interchange passage up to the Charing
Cross branch only went onto the northbound platform; the picture does
seem to suggest this, but I was wondering why they built the
interchange passage like this in the first place?

The other thing I notice is that in your photograph of the top of the
interchange stairs, the wall infront seems to be vertically floor to
ceiling, and doesn't seem to have any stairs coming down on top of it;
this suggests that its quite a long way behind the current entrance to
the platform - far back enough to be completely behind the stairs. But
the old photgraph seems to suggest that the old stairs are right next
to the platform - so they must have blocked up quite a bit of the
platform between where the old stairs end and where the new stairs
reach the current end of the platform?

Its a bit as if where the double dark tile ring is (with 3.4-5 on the
wall) in the old photograph is equal to where the man with blue jeans
is in the new photograph, and the bits of the platform beyond the
double dark tile ring are now blocked off for some reason.

Euston Island
 

On Oct 14, 9:21 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:

Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines. They built another new passenger tunnel in the southbound platform and would have used that until the the northbound exit was completed. I go through the station daily and very slowly overtime have built up a picture of the layout, their is more down there and other exits into the new part of the station which I did have access to.

The station manager didn't seen too be bothered about H&S, the Charing
Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway tunnels where very dark and I
could very easily trapped and fallen to my death in the old lift
shaft. The other tunnels were safe though.

Rob

Euston Island
 

On Oct 14, 9:40 pm, wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:21 pm, lonelytraveller

wrote:
On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:

Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines. They built another new passenger tunnel in the southbound platform and would have used that until the the northbound exit was completed. I go through the station daily and very slowly overtime have built up a picture of the layout, their is more down there and other exits into the new part of the station which I did have access to.

The station manager didn't seen too be bothered about H&S, the Charing
Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway tunnels where very dark and I
could very easily trapped and fallen to my death in the old lift
shaft. The other tunnels were safe though.

Rob

Sorry about the poor spelling!!

Euston Island
 

On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote:

I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one
photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
- which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island
platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other
side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the
original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance
at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing
Cross branch.

The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the
stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old
photos/postcards showing the bridge?

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth

My reply seems to have disappeared in the ether. I was just saying
that your first photo shows the second hold in the groove that I was
talking about, quite near to the other hole.

That groove is visible in the shot where you suggest that one bridge
can be seen, between the visible hole and the structure you refer to.
I am sure that whatever the structure is, it is not associated with
the passageways and is much further east.

Euston Island
 

On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:
Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines.

I mean that the photo's seem to imply the opposite - that the tunnel
originally went beyond where the end wall is now, and they've filled-
in a bit. The old photo indicates that the platform ended next to the
top of the steps, but the photo of the top of the steps as it is now
shows a vertical wall there. That wall must be where the platform used
to end, but since it is a vertical wall, and not steps coming down, it
must be a bit behind where the current entrance steps coming down are
- so the platform must originally have been longer.

Euston Island
 

On 14 Oct, 21:21, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.
Your 1908 platform photo is quite amusing - I like the way there's a
lamppost down there and it looks like toy trains. But I especially
like the fact that it looks like there's a tardis at the bottom of the
stairs.
Thinking about this, what exactly is that tardis-like object at the
bottom of the stairs, and why do two men seem to be coming from the
inside of it?

Euston Island
 

In message .com,
lonelytraveller writes

Thinking about this, what exactly is that tardis-like object at the
bottom of the stairs,

I'd say it was a ticket inspection booth. A clearer version of the same
photo appears in the Capital Transport book on the Northern line, and
shows a closed gate at the foot of the stairs left of the booth.

and why do two men seem to be coming from the inside of it?

Ticket inspectors, I guess - of course, the whole photo is specially
posed for the cameraman.
--
Paul Terry

Euston Island
 

On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote:

I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one
photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
- which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island
platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other
side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the
original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance
at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing
Cross branch.

The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the
stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old
photos/postcards showing the bridge?

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth

Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the
second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove
I referred to elsewhere.

In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the
structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove
which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't,
so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with
the passageways in question.

Euston Island
 

On Oct 15, 7:54 pm, MIG wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:



On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote:

I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one
photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
- which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island
platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other
side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the
original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance
at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing
Cross branch.

The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the
stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old
photos/postcards showing the bridge?

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth

Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the
second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove
I referred to elsewhere.

In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the
structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove
which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't,
so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with
the passageways in question.

Hi, I'd disagree with you on that, the old photo is taken from a
completely different perspective than the new shots. I'd say the
bridge looks in just the right place, also look how small the chap is
sitting on the far bench. The distance is further than you may think.

Rob

Euston Island
 

On Oct 15, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:54 pm, MIG wrote:





On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:

On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote:

I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one
photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
- which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island
platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other
side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the
original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance
at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing
Cross branch.

The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the
stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old
photos/postcards showing the bridge?

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth

Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the
second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove
I referred to elsewhere.

In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the
structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove
which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't,
so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with
the passageways in question.

Hi, I'd disagree with you on that, the old photo is taken from a
completely different perspective than the new shots. I'd say the
bridge looks in just the right place, also look how small the chap is
sitting on the far bench. The distance is further than you may think.


That's what I'm saying: it's too far. In your first photo you can see
that the hole in the groove is quite close to the one not in the
groove.

In the old photo, you can see the groove just beyond the visible
hole. The structure running across is much further away.