On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:
In message . com, MIG
writes

There are two holes, in which one can see some tiles, both towards the
east end of the platform (so in the Eversholt Street area; does that
fit with an old exit?).

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery suspended from
the tunnel roof led to two lifts communicating with a surface
ticket hall in Seymour (now Eversholt) Street ...

Presumably, this gallery spanned the two holes in question?
--
Paul Terry

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this? It must have
been very unusual for a deep level line.

On Oct 6, 3:43 pm, Paul Terry wrote:
In message . com, MIG
writes

There are two holes, in which one can see some tiles, both towards the
east end of the platform (so in the Eversholt Street area; does that
fit with an old exit?).

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery suspended from
the tunnel roof led to two lifts communicating with a surface
ticket hall in Seymour (now Eversholt) Street ...

Presumably, this gallery spanned the two holes in question?


I didn't mean to imply the the holes are opposite each other. They
correspond to two parallel passages, both leading south away from the
platform.

This was presumably some kind of one-way flow associated with the
lifts.

It's difficult to work out how the bridge was arranged, given how
narrow the platform was.

In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery suspended from
the tunnel roof led to two lifts communicating with a surface
ticket hall in Seymour (now Eversholt) Street ...

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the Northern
Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the wrong way
(towards the central staircase down to the platform) and is labelled as
a "rare" photo of the original layout - not surprisingly, since much of
it was altered after only a few years.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows that
the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would estimate
about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge above the tracks
was clearly possible. The original island platform at Angel was similar
- the following photo gives some sort of idea of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg
--
Paul Terry

On 6 Oct, 19:14, Paul Terry wrote:
In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:
According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery suspended from
the tunnel roof led to two lifts communicating with a surface
ticket hall in Seymour (now Eversholt) Street ...
That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the Northern
Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the wrong way
(towards the central staircase down to the platform) and is labelled as
a "rare" photo of the original layout - not surprisingly, since much of
it was altered after only a few years.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows that
the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would estimate
about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge above the tracks
was clearly possible. The original island platform at Angel was similar
- the following photo gives some sort of idea of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg
--
Paul Terry

Thats the same height as at Clapham, which still has the original
stairs and island. There must be a photo of the original Euston
somewhere - though its hard enough to find pictures of the old CSLR
surface building.

On Oct 6, 11:02 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 6 Oct, 19:14, Paul Terry wrote:





In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:
According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery suspended from
the tunnel roof led to two lifts communicating with a surface
ticket hall in Seymour (now Eversholt) Street ...
That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the Northern
Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the wrong way
(towards the central staircase down to the platform) and is labelled as
a "rare" photo of the original layout - not surprisingly, since much of
it was altered after only a few years.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows that
the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would estimate
about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge above the tracks
was clearly possible. The original island platform at Angel was similar
- the following photo gives some sort of idea of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg
--
Paul Terry

Thats the same height as at Clapham, which still has the original
stairs and island. There must be a photo of the original Euston
somewhere - though its hard enough to find pictures of the old CSLR
surface building

There's a picture of the latter in "The Northern Line A Brief History"
by Charles E Lee, taken in 1907, but the roads it's on the corner of
aren't specified.

In article ,
(Paul Terry) wrote:

In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery
suspended from the tunnel roof led to two lifts
communicating with a surface ticket hall in Seymour (now
Eversholt) Street ...

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the
Northern Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the
wrong way (towards the central staircase down to the platform) and
is labelled as a "rare" photo of the original layout - not
surprisingly, since much of it was altered after only a few years.

Not exactly in my (1990 first edition) copy it ain't. There is a
reproduction of a poster with a drawing of the Euston island platform,
declaring "FROM EUSTON TO CLAPHAM COMMON THE TRANSFORMATION IS COMPLETE"
there. There is also a photo of the current wide platform which does show
the openings we have been discussing. There is also a picture of the
Angel island platform, taken at platform level.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows
that the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would
estimate about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge
above the tracks was clearly possible. The original island platform
at Angel was similar - the following photo gives some sort of idea
of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg

Yes, the island platform was in a larger tunnel than used for single
platforms. As they were circular they would be higher as well as wider.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 7 Oct, 00:35, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,



(Paul Terry) wrote:
In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery
suspended from the tunnel roof led to two lifts
communicating with a surface ticket hall in Seymour (now
Eversholt) Street ...

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the
Northern Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the
wrong way (towards the central staircase down to the platform) and
is labelled as a "rare" photo of the original layout - not
surprisingly, since much of it was altered after only a few years.

Not exactly in my (1990 first edition) copy it ain't. There is a
reproduction of a poster with a drawing of the Euston island platform,
declaring "FROM EUSTON TO CLAPHAM COMMON THE TRANSFORMATION IS COMPLETE"
there. There is also a photo of the current wide platform which does show
the openings we have been discussing. There is also a picture of the
Angel island platform, taken at platform level.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows
that the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would
estimate about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge
above the tracks was clearly possible. The original island platform
at Angel was similar - the following photo gives some sort of idea
of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg

Yes, the island platform was in a larger tunnel than used for single
platforms. As they were circular they would be higher as well as wider.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I've just found this photograph
http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/...n&_IXFIRST_=39
- which seems to show an older view in the opposite direction. The
area in question is unfortunately in the distance in the photograph,
but it looks like one of the bridges might still have there. You can
clearly see the hole, for what might once have been the entrance first
bridge and steps, on the top right towards the back of the photograph.

On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 7 Oct, 00:35, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:





In article ,

(Paul Terry) wrote:
In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery
suspended from the tunnel roof led to two lifts
communicating with a surface ticket hall in Seymour (now
Eversholt) Street ...

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the
Northern Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the
wrong way (towards the central staircase down to the platform) and
is labelled as a "rare" photo of the original layout - not
surprisingly, since much of it was altered after only a few years.

Not exactly in my (1990 first edition) copy it ain't. There is a
reproduction of a poster with a drawing of the Euston island platform,
declaring "FROM EUSTON TO CLAPHAM COMMON THE TRANSFORMATION IS COMPLETE"
there. There is also a photo of the current wide platform which does show
the openings we have been discussing. There is also a picture of the
Angel island platform, taken at platform level.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows
that the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would
estimate about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge
above the tracks was clearly possible. The original island platform
at Angel was similar - the following photo gives some sort of idea
of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg

Yes, the island platform was in a larger tunnel than used for single
platforms. As they were circular they would be higher as well as wider.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I've just found this photographhttp://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXSR_=PWykTrhwf...
- which seems to show an older view in the opposite direction. The
area in question is unfortunately in the distance in the photograph,
but it looks like one of the bridges might still have there. You can
clearly see the hole, for what might once have been the entrance first
bridge and steps, on the top right towards the back of the photograph

The hole that seems to be visible in this shot would be the one that
the picture that started this off was taken through.

It looks like the groove (wider cross-section) that I was talking
about, and where the second hole comes out, is between the hole you
can see and the structure you can see further along. You just can't
see the hole because it's set back. So I don't think that the
structure that can be seen in this picture relates to the holes.

On 13 Oct, 13:15, MIG wrote:
On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, lonelytraveller



wrote:
On 7 Oct, 00:35, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,

(Paul Terry) wrote:
In message . com,
lonelytraveller writes

On 6 Oct, 15:43, Paul Terry wrote:

According to "Rails Through the Clay" (page 27):

At the east end of the island platform, a gallery
suspended from the tunnel roof led to two lifts
communicating with a surface ticket hall in Seymour (now
Eversholt) Street ...

That would make sense. Are there any photographs of this?

Not in "Rails Through the Clay". The only photo I've seen of the
original island layout at Euston is in the monograph on the
Northern Line by Mike Horne and Bob Bayman, and that is facing the
wrong way (towards the central staircase down to the platform) and
is labelled as a "rare" photo of the original layout - not
surprisingly, since much of it was altered after only a few years.

Not exactly in my (1990 first edition) copy it ain't. There is a
reproduction of a poster with a drawing of the Euston island platform,
declaring "FROM EUSTON TO CLAPHAM COMMON THE TRANSFORMATION IS COMPLETE"
there. There is also a photo of the current wide platform which does show
the openings we have been discussing. There is also a picture of the
Angel island platform, taken at platform level.

It must have been very unusual for a deep level line.

The only thing I would add is that the photo mentioned above shows
that the station tunnel was very high by modern standards - I would
estimate about 16 feet - so building some sort of gantry-bridge
above the tracks was clearly possible. The original island platform
at Angel was similar - the following photo gives some sort of idea
of the height:

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/imag...0/i00000v0.jpg

Yes, the island platform was in a larger tunnel than used for single
platforms. As they were circular they would be higher as well as wider.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I've just found this photograph http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/...XSR_=PWykTrhwf...
- which seems to show an older view in the opposite direction. The
area in question is unfortunately in the distance in the photograph,
but it looks like one of the bridges might still have there. You can
clearly see the hole, for what might once have been the entrance first
bridge and steps, on the top right towards the back of the photograph

The hole that seems to be visible in this shot would be the one that
the picture that started this off was taken through.

It looks like the groove (wider cross-section) that I was talking
about, and where the second hole comes out, is between the hole you
can see and the structure you can see further along. You just can't
see the hole because it's set back. So I don't think that the
structure that can be seen in this picture relates to the holes.

Ah right. So back to my original question, does anyone have a
photograph or know where one is showing a similar view to the one I've
just given the link to, except with the structures relating to the
holes still there?

On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote:
I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one
photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn...
- which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island
platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other
side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the
original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance
at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing
Cross branch.

The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the
stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old
photos/postcards showing the bridge?

Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels,
I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in
this post.

I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to
be clear things up.

http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm

Cheers

Robert Stainforth