On 2 Oct, 07:30, wrote:

"London TravelWatch considers that this should be done as soon as
possible, and we understand that S106 money may be obtainable as a
contribution to such a scheme."

S106 = Arsenal pays.


It is also clearly absurd not to provide enhanced facilities at
Drayton Park for travelling supporters, especially given the huge
expanse of derelict land (the former LT depot) by the station. But
don't expect AFC to pay - why should they?-


The section 106 issue concerning Arsenal's contribution has already
been fixed when planning permission was granted.


http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/document/2940/get


An issue not covered in the RUS is that of high demand, and therefore
of crowding issues, when fixtures are held at Arsenal's new Emirates
stadium. The present situation is that Drayton Park station - one of
the closest to the stadium - is closed when most events take place.
Historically this is because of the restricted operating hours of the
Moorgate line. It would obviously be beneficial for the line to be
opened at these times, but First Capital Connect have made it clear
that even if the line were open they would keep Drayton Park closed
because its narrow island platform and booking hall access could not
cope with the expected crowds. However opposite the present platform,
on the down side, there is vacant land on which an additional platform
could be built. London TravelWatch considers that this should be done
as
soon as possible, and we understand that S106 money may be obtainable
as a contribution to such a scheme. This would benefit passengers for
whom the Drayton Park route is convenient, and users of other local
stations who would experience less congestion as a result.

http://www.islington.gov.uk/Council/...06/09/2622.asp
quote
£2.5 million earmarked for Drayton Park Station
Date: 08-Sep-06 by charles dean

Islington Council is to investigate how to make it easier for fans to
attend matches at Arsenal football stadium.

A feasibility study looking at major improvements to Drayton Park
Station is underway, and if the plans prove viable then £2.5million
could be spent on increasing rail capacity, so more people can travel
by train.

As part of the planning conditions for the new Emirates stadium in
Ashburton Grove, it was agreed that a feasibility study be carried out
to investigate rail capacity options for the station.

Three main areas will be looked at as part of the study:

* enhancing and improving the station and its facilities
* extending train services through Drayton Park, on the line
connecting Finsbury Park, Drayton Park and Highbury and Islington
* extending train services between Finsbury Park and Moorgate.

At least £500,000 will be spent on station improvements, and if it
proves viable to extend train services later in the evenings and on
weekends, then up to £2million will be made available.

Cllr Terry Stacy, Executive Member for Housing and Communities, said:
"This study will look at the role Drayton Park plays on match days, as
well as supporting the regeneration of the surrounding area.

"We are delighted to be working with train company, First Capital
Connect, and the London Development Agency to examine options for
improving the station and local train services. Working together has
already paid off with improved rail services via Finsbury Park on
match days".

For further information please contact Helen Fallon, Senior Transport
Planner, on 020 7527 2785.

Ends


Notes to Editors:

The London Development Agency will fund the study, the outcome of
which is likely to be announced later this year.

unquote

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Mwmbwls wrote:

On 2 Oct, 07:30, wrote:

"London TravelWatch considers that this should be done as soon as
possible, and we understand that S106 money may be obtainable as a
contribution to such a scheme."

S106 = Arsenal pays.

It is also clearly absurd not to provide enhanced facilities at Drayton
Park for travelling supporters, especially given the huge expanse of
derelict land (the former LT depot) by the station. But don't expect
AFC to pay - why should they?-

The section 106 issue concerning Arsenal's contribution has already
been fixed when planning permission was granted.

But i think the money has already been spent on improvements to Finsbury
Park and Highbury & Islington. Although i don't know if all of it has been
spent - enough was agreed for improvements to Holloway Road, and that
would have been a lot, more than has been spent at FP and H&I, i think, so
that might still be available.

Also, as you quote:

At least £500,000 will be spent on station improvements, and if it
proves viable to extend train services later in the evenings and on
weekends, then up to £2million will be made available.

It sounds like some of the money is contingent on improvements in service,
so it couldn't have been touched by the FP and H&I works.

I should drop an email to TfL or something.

tom

--
**** bitches, you know how I swang. I gets my cinna-on at the
Cinna-bon. -- K-Real

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:31:37 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Mwmbwls wrote:

On 2 Oct, 07:30, wrote:

"London TravelWatch considers that this should be done as soon as
possible, and we understand that S106 money may be obtainable as a
contribution to such a scheme."

S106 = Arsenal pays.

It is also clearly absurd not to provide enhanced facilities at Drayton
Park for travelling supporters, especially given the huge expanse of
derelict land (the former LT depot) by the station. But don't expect
AFC to pay - why should they?-

The section 106 issue concerning Arsenal's contribution has already
been fixed when planning permission was granted.

But i think the money has already been spent on improvements to Finsbury
Park and Highbury & Islington. Although i don't know if all of it has been
spent - enough was agreed for improvements to Holloway Road, and that
would have been a lot, more than has been spent at FP and H&I, i think, so
that might still be available.

limited knowledge mode

Err no money has been spent at Highbury - at least not to my eyes and I
use the station on a weekly basis. The work at Finsbury Park was on the
station place bus station which I believe is all TfL funded as was the
traffic rerouting and traffic lights. More work is scheduled at FP to
open up some circulation space and install MIP lifts. This is being
combined with the PPP contracted works into one overall scheme. I think
ticket gates get put in as part of the scheme - it's a fair while since
I've seen the plans.

Nothing is being taken forward at Holloway Road as no scheme was found
to be feasible after a lot of planning work. The next work at HR will
be the PPP modernisation work but nothing on capacity works.

I don't think Arsenal have paid out anything of any great substance
despite the conditions that were set but I might be wrong on that.

Also, as you quote:

At least £500,000 will be spent on station improvements, and if it
proves viable to extend train services later in the evenings and on
weekends, then up to £2million will be made available.

It sounds like some of the money is contingent on improvements in service,
so it couldn't have been touched by the FP and H&I works.

I think there is theoretically a lot of money still sloshing around
given the lack of any substantive scheme to provide enough capacity. The
big problem is that Arsenal's contribution is far too small to fully
fund the scale of works needed at LU locations given they are all
subsurface and therefore very costly. Something on the surface at
Drayton Park might well be more feasible and more affordable but perhaps
not good value for money overall given the low non football usage of the
station (linked to the poor overall service!).
--
Paul C