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Diversion of the South London Line from London Bridge
On 18 Oct, 14:12, John B wrote:
On 18 Oct, 13:05, MIG wrote: I really can't see what "improvements for the greater good" are going to be achieved by diverting trains from already overcrowded routes into central London into a stopping service to Hackney. The dream of an orbital railway is being pursued in a very blinkered way. There may be a need for one, but when people agree to the need for a new service, it's wrong to infer that they mean "and existing services should be taken away". The fact that railways developed as they did, with radial routes having precedence over orbital ones, is a clue to which are more important. s/"are"/"were at the time railways developed". Employment is decreasingly concentrated in central London, and congestion is making rail an increasingly important alternative for commuting in outer London. As always, things are shifting around. The ELLX trains that will replace some of the existing stopping services up from Croydon to New Cross will be useful to those working at Canary Wharf and the Docklands, given the interchange that'll be offered at Canada Water. I'd be interested to know how many passengers on these trains head for the Jubilee line on arrival at London Bridge to head east for Canary Wharf, or indeed west for the West End. I'd wager it would be a substantial number. Of course London Bridge remains an absolutely crucial destination in itself for access to the City. And AIUI Denmark Hill would keep its Blackfriars and Victoria to Sevenoaks and Dartford trains (just losing the Victoria to London Bridge SLL trains) under the Orbirail proposals, so nobody would be denied access to town... The whole situation regarding the future of the SLL is pretty complex, as Paul Scott said - anyone who really wants to get their head round it should read the RUS. I did a while back but I can't remember all the options now - plus there's a lot of linkages between different proposed plans to aid in one's confusion. Without reminding myself on the plans I don't feel confident in replying with a proper level of authority - however I can say for certain that it is far more complicated that the mere diversion of the SLL away from Victoria or London Bridge. |
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