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http://besti.design-freestyle.com/Tf...n-of-Tube-Map/
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TfL did consider radical redesign of Tube Map
There's been a lot of discussion about the new Tube map that's coming
out this Sunday, 11th November. I've just received heads up from the
guys at iPM at BBC Radio 4 that they will be talking to the Curator of
the London Transport Museum and also to a person from Transport for
London about the new map.
Apparently TfL will tell that they did consider a radical redesign -
but then dismissed the idea as it was a step too far for now. They're
continually being sent ideas for new designs but apparently none fit
the bill. Interestingly they see the map as being quite "socialist" -
ie equal measure is being given to each line. They have an "if it
ain't broke don't fix it" approach. This is all very well, but
considering there will definitely be more changes in 2012, have we
really now got to the stage where something simpler should be produced?
Max Roberts alternative " curvy Tube map" is certainly pleasing on the
eye. Would the extra lines and stations work on this?
Check out the piece on Radio 4 on Saturday 10th November at 5.30pm.
Sounds like it will be a good one. You'll also be able to download a
podcast from BBC iPM if you miss it. There will also be much more on
the blog in terms of longer interviews, plus elements that didn't make
the final "on-air" item, so check out their blog on Saturday evening.
As a preview there's an audio piece on this post with TfL's Group
Design Manager Innes Ferguson who was asked in the past if other
designs were considered.....
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On Nov 12, 6:37 am, Mwmbwls wrote:
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TfL did consider radical redesign of Tube Map
There's been a lot of discussion about the new Tube map that's coming
out this Sunday, 11th November. I've just received heads up from the
guys at iPM at BBC Radio 4 that they will be talking to the Curator of
the London Transport Museum and also to a person from Transport for
London about the new map.

....
Max Roberts alternative " curvy Tube map" is certainly pleasing on the
eye. Would the extra lines and stations work on this?...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/...43e4c33f_o.jpg
It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.

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It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.


Eww! It looks like some weird spaghetti, definitely not a professional
look. Besides it does not solve the problem of overcrowding - imagine
it with DLR and Overground, and then we'll talk.

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On Nov 12, 10:18 am, alex_t wrote:
It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.


Eww! It looks like some weird spaghetti, definitely not a professional
look. Besides it does not solve the problem of overcrowding - imagine
it with DLR and Overground, and then we'll talk.


Oh, yeah. I hadn't noticed that there was no DLR... Not quite as good
as I thunk.

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, alex_t wrote:

It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.


Eww! It looks like some weird spaghetti,


That's no way to talk about His Noodliness!

http://www.venganza.org/images/wallp...le1024_768.jpg

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That's no way to talk about His Noodliness!
http://www.venganza.org/images/wallp...le1024_768.jpg


I'm very sorry! I did not mean to offend your minority religious
views...

;-)

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On Nov 12, 5:20 pm, alex_t wrote:
That's no way to talk about His Noodliness!
http://www.venganza.org/images/wallp...le1024_768.jpg


I'm very sorry! I did not mean to offend your minority religious
views...


Is it Cthulhu?

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In article om,
Offramp wrote:
On Nov 12, 5:20 pm, alex_t wrote:
That's no way to talk about His Noodliness!
http://www.venganza.org/images/wallp...le1024_768.jpg


I'm very sorry! I did not mean to offend your minority religious
views...


Is it Cthulhu?


No, it's the pastafarian Spaghedeity.

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On Nov 12, 10:18 am, alex_t wrote:
It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.


Eww! It looks like some weird spaghetti, definitely not a professional
look. Besides it does not solve the problem of overcrowding - imagine
it with DLR and Overground, and then we'll talk.


Oh, yeah. I hadn't noticed that there was no DLR... Not quite as good
as I thunk.



Very much a 'first draft' feel to this for me.

I like the idea of being more geographicly accurate where it matters (e.g.
where walking distance between stations makes it worthwhile to walk rather
than take a train and change, but they've missed a few tricks with lots of
stations that appear to be too far apart or close together:


Paddington and Lancaster gate

Euston/Square/Warren Street - totally unrepresentative of the actual
locations

Kenton / Northwich park

W & C line route - no intermediate stations on it I know, but it bugs me
nonetheless

And perhaps the most ludicrous of all: Bank/Monument/Cannon St/Mansion House


So, it doesn't really achieve what it (presumably) sets out to.

BTN


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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:04:07 -0000, Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

It does look really good. I think that's the one we'll have by 2012;
it's friendlier looking and gives a better idea of where stations are
in relation to each other.

Eww! It looks like some weird spaghetti, definitely not a professional
look. Besides it does not solve the problem of overcrowding - imagine
it with DLR and Overground, and then we'll talk.


Oh, yeah. I hadn't noticed that there was no DLR... Not quite as good
as I thunk.


Very much a 'first draft' feel to this for me.

I like the idea of being more geographicly accurate where it matters (e.g.
where walking distance between stations makes it worthwhile to walk rather
than take a train and change, but they've missed a few tricks with lots of
stations that appear to be too far apart or close together:


And the Heathrow loop is the wrong way round...


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