On 14 Nov, 20:06, "John Rowland"
wrote:
tfh of Hednesford wrote:
Anyone any idea why a Eurostar would be passing through Queenstown
Road while I was there yesterday?

Never seen one there before

see
http://tonyhunter2814.fotopic.net/p46649528.html
for photo

Wasn't that the standard route from Waterloo to North Pole Depot?

Yes, absolutely. But obviously, as of yesterday, no more.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On 14 Nov, 20:06, "John Rowland"
wrote:
tfh of Hednesford wrote:
Anyone any idea why a Eurostar would be passing through Queenstown
Road while I was there yesterday?

Never seen one there before

see
http://tonyhunter2814.fotopic.net/p46649528.html
for photo

Wasn't that the standard route from Waterloo to North Pole Depot?

Yes, absolutely. But obviously, as of yesterday, no more.


Heading into Waterloo at 11:10 yesterday, perfectly possible at that time.

D

Dave wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

On 14 Nov, 20:06, "John Rowland"
wrote:
tfh of Hednesford wrote:
Anyone any idea why a Eurostar would be passing through Queenstown
Road while I was there yesterday?

Never seen one there before

see
http://tonyhunter2814.fotopic.net/p46649528.html
for photo

Wasn't that the standard route from Waterloo to North Pole Depot?

Yes, absolutely. But obviously, as of yesterday, no more.


Heading into Waterloo at 11:10 yesterday, perfectly possible at that time.

D

Of course. Maybe I should have said "as of today, no more" - or indeed
"as of yesterday evening, no more" - however other posts here have
basically indicated that North Pole depot shut up shop yesterday, so
Eurostar ECS through Queenstown Road was basically a thing of the past
as soon as the last ECS move from North Pole to Waterloo Int'l
happened yesterday - and I've no idea when that was (i.e. whether
morning, afternoon or early evening)!

Mizter T wrote:

Of course. Maybe I should have said "as of today, no more" - or indeed
"as of yesterday evening, no more" - however other posts here have
basically indicated that North Pole depot shut up shop yesterday, so
Eurostar ECS through Queenstown Road was basically a thing of the past

No, North Pole depot is still open but Waterloo International is shut!

John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Of course. Maybe I should have said "as of today, no more" - or indeed
"as of yesterday evening, no more" - however other posts here have
basically indicated that North Pole depot shut up shop yesterday, so
Eurostar ECS through Queenstown Road was basically a thing of the past

No, North Pole depot is still open but Waterloo International is shut!

Not really John, though it depends upon what you mean by open. The
North Pole depot has basically shut up shop now, as AIUI there are no
longer any Eurostar trains there at all anymore, nor have there been
since the last Eurostar left for an an ECS move to Waterloo
International sometime on tuesday (13 Nov).

See this thread...
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....1c96be794a8b1/

....in particular the post from D7666 aka Nick where he says this

quote
[...] One piece of gen i picked up was that North Pole depot was
effectively cleared last week except for inspections on units required
for service. As of tonight it should be devoid of stock and parts
except for one barrier vehicle that is for scrap. The enhanced quasi-
border security is withdrawn at 06:00 tomorrow and from then on the
depot site is ''normal'' railway security.
/quote

I doubt there's much happening at all anymore at the North Pole depot.

Mizter T wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Of course. Maybe I should have said "as of today, no more" - or
indeed "as of yesterday evening, no more" - however other posts
here have basically indicated that North Pole depot shut up shop
yesterday, so Eurostar ECS through Queenstown Road was basically a
thing of the past

No, North Pole depot is still open but Waterloo International is
shut!

Not really John, though it depends upon what you mean by open. The
North Pole depot has basically shut up shop now, as AIUI there are no
longer any Eurostar trains there at all anymore, nor have there been
since the last Eurostar left for an an ECS move to Waterloo
International sometime on tuesday (13 Nov).

I'm sorry, I remember all the talk about how the Eurostars would use the NLL
to get from St Pancras to North Pole, and completely missed out on the
subsequent decision to close North Pole.

John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Of course. Maybe I should have said "as of today, no more" - or
indeed "as of yesterday evening, no more" - however other posts
here have basically indicated that North Pole depot shut up shop
yesterday, so Eurostar ECS through Queenstown Road was basically a
thing of the past

No, North Pole depot is still open but Waterloo International is
shut!

Not really John, though it depends upon what you mean by open. The
North Pole depot has basically shut up shop now, as AIUI there are no
longer any Eurostar trains there at all anymore, nor have there been
since the last Eurostar left for an an ECS move to Waterloo
International sometime on tuesday (13 Nov).

I'm sorry, I remember all the talk about how the Eurostars would use the NLL
to get from St Pancras to North Pole, and completely missed out on the
subsequent decision to close North Pole.

No problem. The decision to move to Temple Mills (or at least the firm
decision - it might have been an aspiration for a while) appears to
have been taken quite late in the day - from a quick search of
uk.railway perhaps it was taken in 2004, at the same time Eurostar
took the decision to quit Waterloo.

AIUI the new Temple Mills Eurostar depot was paid for by central
government, and in return the government will be transferred ownership
of Waterloo International (and possibly also the North Pole depot as
well) - I'm a bit hazy on this to be honest, but I'm pretty sure both
sites will come into the ownership of central government and at least
one of them was in effect a swap deal (if not both of them).

A significant benefit is that the NLL won't be clogged up with
Eurostars en-route to and from St. Pancras (and AFAICS a North Pole to
St. Pancras ECS move would require the Eurostar to be reversed on the
WLL as well, so clogging that up in the process). Other significant
benefits are securing the Waterloo Int'l terminal and the North Pole
depot for future railway use, though the North Pole depot site really
isn't at all suitable for other property developments and the Waterloo
site is hardly ideal either.