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Is the skate collectively insured for third party risks, e.g a pedestrian
getting run down by skaters when crossing the road with the "green man" showing? Well that would still be covered by the one long vehicle rule but yes, the skate is insured. The t-shirts available on the website and before the skate help fund the insurance. G |
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In message , Cast_Iron
writes I would suggest they are guilty of using an ecologically sound form of transport that if more widely adopted would resolve London's traffic congestion problems at a stroke Be okay until it rained. Then they would all be getting on the bus. The question you have to ask yourself is if skating/bikes are so great. Why are there so many cars on the road. People like their cars. Simple. -- CJG |
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And this is exactly why skating is not viable alternative to the car.
And a car isn't a viable alternative when you have to travel thousands of miles in one go. Your point? G |
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Gerard McGovern wrote:
Is the skate collectively insured for third party risks, e.g a pedestrian getting run down by skaters when crossing the road with the "green man" showing? Well that would still be covered by the one long vehicle rule There is no such rule in law. A body of skaters is not a vehicle. You are merely following advice from the police on how to behave; presumably they don't want to invest the effort in policing it properly. Anyway, a pedestrian trying to cross the road is not aware of this "rule". What happens at zebra crossings by the way? but yes, the skate is insured. The t-shirts available on the website and before the skate help fund the insurance. Glad to hear it. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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As Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:53:09 GMT appeared fresh and rosy-fingered,
"Martin Underwood" wrote: Now let's look at the benefits of public transport: - quicker if you and your place of work are close to a train/bus route - no problem with parking - bus or bike may be quicker in heavily congested traffic providing a dedicated bus lane exists I don't think bike qualifies as public transport! Though I suppose it might if it is hired, or one of those help-yourself schemes that exist in a few places. Or one of those cycle rickshaw things. .... Usually there isn't: for impromptu, unplanned journeys you don't have to get your bike and helmet out and resign yourself to a longer journey, Um, won't you have to get your car out instead? -- Arthur Figgis |
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What advice is given to the skaters when they encounter traffic ahead
going in the same direction? Do they slow down and wait behind it, going at its speed, or do the individual skaters break ranks and skate to the left and right of other traffic? Do they obey the rule about not overtaking traffic that's indicating (eg don't overtake a vehicle on the left if it's indicating left and don't overtake a vehicle on the right if it's indicating right)? Do you try to keep the skaters confined to a single lane at multi-lane junctions or on multi-lane roads so as to allow traffic to overtake the skaters when it's safe to do so? The primary piece of advice given to skaters is keep left. This obviously means that skaters keep in the correct lane and also allows marshals to move up and down the pack. We also must stay as a pack. There are front and back marshals and anyone outside of these two areas is no longer considered part of the skate. We also shout/reprimand anyone who skates on the pavement. To be honest, it is very infrequent that we are actually overtaking traffic so those rules hardly ever come into play. But when they do, we follow the exact rules of the Highway Code. More often than not any cars that are in the way ahead will be held by marshals for the safety of both the driver and skaters. But as I said, this is infrequent. For multi-lane roads, we will normally take up all available lanes. There are on average 200 to 600 skaters each Wednesday and Friday so if you imagine on a two-lane dual carriageway that would be a long line of skaters and far too dangerous for cars to be passing all those skaters. We do go over bridges a fair bit and in that instance we will keep everyone left and allow the third or fourth lanes to be used by cars. If you have any more questions, fire them at me. G |
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Well that would still be covered by the one long vehicle rule
There is no such rule in law. A body of skaters is not a vehicle. You are merely following advice from the police on how to behave; presumably they don't want to invest the effort in policing it properly. Anyway, a pedestrian trying to cross the road is not aware of this "rule". Well 'rule' as by following police instructions. Whilst a pedestrian may not be aware of the rule, I think they would work out not to cross when 600 skaters are streaming by. We do also say a big thank you to anyone who lets us pass. What happens at zebra crossings by the way? If someone is crossing we will obviously stop. However the marshalls do a go job of keeping the roads/crossings ahead clear so that situation hardly ever arises. but yes, the skate is insured. The t-shirts available on the website and before the skate help fund the insurance. Glad to hear it. Gotta do these things properly. G |
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In article , Andrew
Dingwall-Smith writes As someone who is learning to skate in London is considering taking part in this event in future, I may be able to answer some of these questions. Obviously, as I have never actually been on one of these skates, my information may be inaccurate. The London skate is indeed a weekly event, although I think it shuts down during the winter. I believe it has been happening for a few years now. It's nice to see something coming from Paris being emulated, rather than another US 'so bland it's immensely popular but crap' -innovation (see Starbucks, BMX, Avril Lavigne, etc.) -- Martin @ Strawberry Hill |
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In message , Martin
writes Avril Lavigne That would be another CANADIAN 'so bland it's immensely popular but crap' -innovation A huge difference. -- CJG |
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In article , CJG
writes In message , Martin writes Avril Lavigne That would be another CANADIAN 'so bland it's immensely popular but crap' -innovation A huge difference. Apologies to all other Canadians, but if smells like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck! (Sk8ter Boy indeed! She's the just the latest in a long line of pouty little Misses produced by the LA music production line.) -- Martin @ Strawberry Hill |
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