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Commuting from Stafford = London
Hi All
Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Sam" wrote in message ... Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? I've done this route many times, albeit from London to Crewe. Going down, there are 3 Pendolinos that arrive into Euston before 9 - the 05:59/06:25/07:05 from Crewe (all call at Stafford). I always travel First Class but you're always likely to get a seat at Stafford as the first train (05:20 from Manchester) always fills up from the Trent Valley stations and Rugby. You can always reserve a seat though. Returning back, I routinely get the 17:21 Holyhead service, which calls at Stafford. Since this calls at Rugby, I've heard PA announcements of it regularly being full and standing in Standard - First is always almost full. This service is notorious for not being on time. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote:
Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! |
Commuting from Stafford = London
wrote in message ... On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same arguement (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On 29 Nov, 16:28, "Toby" wrote:
I've done this route many times, albeit from London to Crewe. Going down, there are 3 Pendolinos that arrive into Euston before 9 - the 05:59/06:25/07:05 from Crewe (all call at Stafford). I always travel First Class but you're always likely to get a seat at Stafford as the first train (05:20 from Manchester) always fills up from the Trent Valley stations and Rugby. You can always reserve a seat though. Returning back, I routinely get the 17:21 Holyhead service, which calls at Stafford. Since this calls at Rugby, I've heard PA announcements of it regularly being full and standing in Standard - First is always almost full. This service is notorious for not being on time. In the December 2008 timetable, the morning trains from Stafford a 06.21 (calls MKC , arrives Euston 07.47); 06.53 (Lichfield and Tamworth, 08.22) and 07.36 (nonstop, 08.52). The first two originate at Lime Street, the last from Manchester Piccadilly (so presumably pretty busy). Coming back there's a 17.07 to Lime street, first stop Stafford (18.23), followed by the 17.33 Lime street, calling at Rugby, arriving Stafford at 18.53. If you work late, the pattern repeats an hour later, followed by a 19.07 that calls at Rugby (arrives Stafford 20.26). |
Commuting from Stafford = London
I commuted for about 3 years daily Birmingham International to Euston then Tube to the City. It was taking me less time to commute than a colleague who travelled in from Maidenhead who claimed the worst part of his journey was the four-mile drive to Maidenhead station and the hopeless task of finding a parking space. I went the whole hog of booking a first class season, which by the time you take into account the free food wasn't such a bad deal compared to the standard fare. Only trouble was, taken in combination with the lunchtime pigging out session (why is there so much food everywhere in London?) my waistline exploded. I was commuting during the final days of loco haulage as well so was rewarded on numerous occasions by class 47 haulage - something of a bonus. With the new trains I would imagine I could be saving a good hour on the commute nowadays. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:26:34 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! A lad I know does it from Crewe to London each day. As you said - rather him than me although an hour and 16 minutes isn't that bad. It can take that on a bad day from South Manchester to Wigan. I suppose it depends on what the journeys are at either end. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Graham Harrison wrote:
wrote in message ... On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same arguement (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. Even a few places inside London - plenty of places on the southern and eastern side of zone 6 take an hour to get to Euston from. tom -- HI DERE WAHT IS IT MADE |
Commuting from Stafford = London
In message , at 17:44:18 on
Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Graham Harrison remarked: Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same arguement (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. It's only a bit over an hour from Grantham to KX (hardly any longer than Cambridge). It's time that matters, not distance. -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, allan tracy wrote:
I commuted for about 3 years daily Birmingham International to Euston then Tube to the City. It was taking me less time to commute than a colleague who travelled in from Maidenhead who claimed the worst part of his journey was the four-mile drive to Maidenhead station and the hopeless task of finding a parking space. I went the whole hog of booking a first class season, which by the time you take into account the free food wasn't such a bad deal compared to the standard fare. Only trouble was, taken in combination with the lunchtime pigging out session (why is there so much food everywhere in London?) my waistline exploded. Heh! The solution would have been to keep a bike locked up at Euston, and do the leg to the city on that. Saves money, burns calories, and is quicker! tom -- HI DERE WAHT IS IT MADE |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On 29 Nov, 16:28, "Toby" wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message Going down, there are 3 Pendolinos that arrive into Euston before 9 - Going up to London. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
In message , at
19:03:21 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tom Anderson remarked: Even a few places inside London - plenty of places on the southern and eastern side of zone 6 take an hour to get to Euston from. Up with which I would not put. -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Cheeky" wrote: A lad I know does it from Crewe to London each day. As you said - rather him than me although an hour and 16 minutes isn't that bad. It can take that on a bad day from South Manchester to Wigan. I suppose it depends on what the journeys are at either end. I'm 1hr 45m each way, door to door, from Seaford (Sussex) to the Fleet Street area. The mitigating factors, for me, are the ability to work from home one day a week, and living within two minutes walk of the platform, thus avoiding any faffing about with parking and de-icing in winter etc. Even so, it's a long (and expensive) haul. Surprisingly, I've got used to the early starts (05.45 train), but if I miss the 17.46 from London Bridge, it's 'back home, into bed, get up', and I'm shattered by Wednesday. Chris |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same argument (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. Can anyone find quickly (and quote here) the Stafford Euston season ticket rates, please? -- DB. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Nov 29, 7:04 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:44:18 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Graham Harrison remarked: Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same arguement (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. It's only a bit over an hour from Grantham to KX (hardly any longer than Cambridge). It's time that matters, not distance. It's also price, which varies with distance more than with time. And also the number of alternatives. I might choose to allow an hour to get to Euston from some places in zone 2, as it happens, but it would also take me two hours or less to walk there from most of zone 2 if absolutely everything went wrong. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
Tom Anderson wrote:
Heh! The solution would have been to keep a bike locked up at Euston, and do the leg to the city on that. Saves money, burns calories, and is quicker! Burns calories? Is that a good thing? Philip. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
DB. wrote:
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! Many years ago (mid/late 70s) I worked in a travel agency in Fleet Street. Customer came in and I needed his address which he gave me as somewhere near Coventry. When I asked if he was just in London for the day he said "no" and explained that he had found that the season fare from Coventry was less than somewhere like Brighton or Worthing. He also pointed out that Coventry took no longer than Brighton and plenty of people did that journey. Much the same argument (timewise, don't know about the fares) can be made for Stafford versus plenty of South Coast "commuter" towns where nobody would bat an eyelid. Can anyone find quickly (and quote here) the Stafford Euston season ticket rates, please? Nationalrail.co.uk says £741pm or £7,724pa. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
In message
, at 12:14:22 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, MIG remarked: It's only a bit over an hour from Grantham to KX (hardly any longer than Cambridge). It's time that matters, not distance. It's also price, which varies with distance more than with time. It's obviously a bit of both, but people are reluctant to commute much more than an hour, even if it's really cheap. -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On 29 Nov, 19:02, Cheeky wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:26:34 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! A lad I know does it from Crewe to London each day. As you said - rather him than me although an hour and 16 minutes isn't that bad. It can take that on a bad day from South Manchester to Wigan. I suppose it depends on what the journeys are at either end.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I know someone who commutes to Clerkenwell most days from Norwich! |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:58:47 -0000, "Chris Read"
wrote: "Cheeky" wrote: A lad I know does it from Crewe to London each day. As you said - rather him than me although an hour and 16 minutes isn't that bad. It can take that on a bad day from South Manchester to Wigan. I suppose it depends on what the journeys are at either end. I'm 1hr 45m each way, door to door, from Seaford (Sussex) to the Fleet Street area. The mitigating factors, for me, are the ability to work from home one day a week, and living within two minutes walk of the platform, thus avoiding any faffing about with parking and de-icing in winter etc. Even so, it's a long (and expensive) haul. Surprisingly, I've got used to the early starts (05.45 train), but if I miss the 17.46 from London Bridge, it's 'back home, into bed, get up', and I'm shattered by Wednesday. Chris Mine varies by mode: Bus + Train + Walk is usually 1:15-1:30 Bike + Train is usually about 50 - 60 minutes depending on whether I get the express or the stopper. It's long enough for me. I loath the days I have to get the bus. The mornings are usually OK but evenings can be terrible. On the bike, the journey time is very consistent. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Philip Hardy wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote: Heh! The solution would have been to keep a bike locked up at Euston, and do the leg to the city on that. Saves money, burns calories, and is quicker! Burns calories? Is that a good thing? Mr Tracy, to whom i was replying, was extolling the virtues of a free breakfast in first class, but bemoaning the effect it had on his loading gauge. Burning some calories would allow him to have had his Full English and eaten it, as it were. tom -- The Gospel is enlightened in interesting ways by reading Beowulf and The Hobbit while listening to Radiohead's Hail to the Thief. To kill a dragon (i.e. Serpent, Smaug, Wolf at the Door) you need 12 (disciples/dwarves) plus one thief (burglar, Hail to the Thief/King/thief in the night), making Christ/Bilbo the 13th Thief. -- Remy Wilkins |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:03:21 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tom Anderson remarked: Even a few places inside London - plenty of places on the southern and eastern side of zone 6 take an hour to get to Euston from. Up with which I would not put. I KNEW someone was going to say that! Nine minutes is record time, i think. Here's what people's hero Geoffrey Pullum (and sideick Benjamin Zimmer) has to say about it: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/001702.html http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/001715.html http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/002670.html tom -- The Gospel is enlightened in interesting ways by reading Beowulf and The Hobbit while listening to Radiohead's Hail to the Thief. To kill a dragon (i.e. Serpent, Smaug, Wolf at the Door) you need 12 (disciples/dwarves) plus one thief (burglar, Hail to the Thief/King/thief in the night), making Christ/Bilbo the 13th Thief. -- Remy Wilkins |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Nov 29, 7:12 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:03:21 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tom Anderson remarked: Even a few places inside London - plenty of places on the southern and eastern side of zone 6 take an hour to get to Euston from. Up with which I would not put. Though presumably not many people who commute therefrom actually work near Euston, and can probably walk to their offices from the Southern termini... (Yes, I know the original poster was asking about Stafford to Euston.) |
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It's also price, which varies with distance more than with time.
And also the number of alternatives. I might choose to allow an hour to get to Euston from some places in zone 2, as it happens, but it would also take me two hours or less to walk there from most of zone 2 if absolutely everything went wrong. Oh yes. In my Cambridge commuting days, when everything worked I was pretty smug, but when (for example) the train sat down at Letchworth I didn't have the option of hopping on a bus with my Oyster. To say nothing of the numerous times when the portion from Kings Lynn refused to mate with the portion sitting at the platform in Cambridge, often leading to the whole thing being cancelled (with me a good 50 miles from my desk...) |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Sam" wrote:
Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Yep, I do it every day and have done for the past 18 months. A monthly season ticket cost 775.80 with the underground included. The 6:43 gets into EUS at about 8:20. One the way back there is the 17:21 which is heaving as it stops at Rugby and Nuneaton or the 17:45 which is a bit quieter. Your best bet is to reserve a seat as all the trains can get a bit full. Not really many delays but it seems worse on trains leaving London. The worst part is the seats on the Virgin trains which appear to have been designed by a legless dwarf. First class is better but the prices are a bit steep, well over 1000 per month last time I looked. |
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In message
, at 14:36:16 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Rupert Candy remarked: In my Cambridge commuting days, when everything worked I was pretty smug, but when (for example) the train sat down at Letchworth I didn't have the option of hopping on a bus with my Oyster. To say nothing of the numerous times when the portion from Kings Lynn refused to mate with the portion sitting at the platform in Cambridge, often leading to the whole thing being cancelled (with me a good 50 miles from my desk...) I gave up when one morning it took three hours to get from Royston as far as Huntingdon (my ultimate destination Peterborough), a trip that has a straight road between them, half an hour by car. At Huntingdon we were all tipped out (for the umpteenth time that day). And as you say, not much to do then except perhaps get a taxi back home and start again tomorrow! -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Cheeky" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:26:34 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On 29 Nov, 10:00, "Sam" wrote: Hi All Due to my partner's working commitments it looks like we will be moving from London to the Stafford area Has anyone experience of commuting from Stafford to EUS ? Needing to arrive into EUS about 0900 and leaving at 1700 ish, chances of getting seats, frequency of delays etc etc ? Cheers J. All the way from Stafford to London every day! Rather you than me! A lad I know does it from Crewe to London each day. As you said - rather him than me although an hour and 16 minutes isn't that bad. It can take that on a bad day from South Manchester to Wigan. I suppose it depends on what the journeys are at either end. I'm looking at a 5-10 minute walk at the Stafford end, 1h30 journey ish, 5 minute walk to KX. Whenever I have got an early train from Manchester Piccadily, it seems to have considerable slack and arrives 10 - 15 mins early in to EUS. Would this ever happen from Stafford ? J. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 11:10:13AM -0800, 1501 wrote:
On 29 Nov, 16:28, "Toby" wrote: Going down, there are 3 Pendolinos that arrive into Euston before 9 - Going up to London. Was there a special offer on pointless directional technicalities this week? -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness Blessed are the pessimists, for they test their backups |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On 29 Nov, 20:32, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:14:22 on Thu, 29 Nov 2007, MIG remarked: It's only a bit over an hour from Grantham to KX (hardly any longer than Cambridge). It's time that matters, not distance. It's also price, which varies with distance more than with time. It's obviously a bit of both, but people are reluctant to commute much more than an hour, even if it's really cheap. I work in London (Zone 2, west london), 3 people in the office have a 1h commute, the other 14 take over an hour. Personally it's 07:55- 09:10 for me in the morning, and 17:30-18:55 in the evening, however if I leave 5 minute late, or the bakerloo is really bad, I miss the connection at Harrow and get in 45 minutes later. Thats bike/train/tube/bike. Before moving it was a direct tube and took 1h10 door to door, plus an average 8 minutes wait for the non-timetabled tube, so the same. Bike all the way took 2h15 though, which is a lot less than it would take for the 50 miles now |
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"MrMr" wrote in message
... The 6:43 gets into EUS at about 8:20. One the way back there is the 17:21 which is heaving as it stops at Rugby and Nuneaton or the 17:45 which is a bit quieter. Your best bet is to reserve a seat as all the trains can get a bit full. Not really many delays but it seems worse on trains leaving London. The worst part is the seats on the Virgin trains which appear to have been designed by a legless dwarf. First class is better but the prices are a bit steep, well over 1000 per month last time I looked. But, but, but... a season is one of the times when first class is usually worth the extra [1], as it's 150% of the standard fare (160% on some lines, I know). Since that gets you a seat and coffee etc, I guess it's worth it. I have never travelled on the 1721 ex Euston, but I can picture standard on it - and it's not a pretty sight. [1] The others IMHO are Advance Purchase deals and cases where you would have to buy an open return if you travelled in standard. Regards Jonathan |
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In message , at 21:09:44 on Sun, 2 Dec
2007, Jonathan Morton remarked: But, but, but... a season is one of the times when first class is usually worth the extra [1], as it's 150% of the standard fare (160% on some lines, I know). Since that gets you a seat and coffee etc, I guess it's worth it. Only gets you coffee on some "Intercity" services. Many suburban First Class services have no catering at all (eg FCC). -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Dec 2, 9:19 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:09:44 on Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Jonathan Morton remarked: But, but, but... a season is one of the times when first class is usually worth the extra [1], as it's 150% of the standard fare (160% on some lines, I know). Since that gets you a seat and coffee etc, I guess it's worth it. Only gets you coffee on some "Intercity" services. Many suburban First Class services have no catering at all (eg FCC). But more likely to need the guarenteed seat (exSilverlink being an exception, no catering, but no seating problems) |
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In message
, at 13:53:25 on Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Paul Weaver remarked: But, but, but... a season is one of the times when first class is usually worth the extra [1], as it's 150% of the standard fare (160% on some lines, I know). Since that gets you a seat and coffee etc, I guess it's worth it. Only gets you coffee on some "Intercity" services. Many suburban First Class services have no catering at all (eg FCC). But more likely to need the guarenteed seat (exSilverlink being an exception, no catering, but no seating problems) A better chance of a seat is a "good thing". But I don't want anyone to think they'll also get free coffee! -- Roland Perry |
Commuting from Stafford = London
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... In message , at 13:53:25 on Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Paul Weaver remarked: But, but, but... a season is one of the times when first class is usually worth the extra [1], as it's 150% of the standard fare (160% on some lines, I know). Since that gets you a seat and coffee etc, I guess it's worth it. Only gets you coffee on some "Intercity" services. Many suburban First Class services have no catering at all (eg FCC). But more likely to need the guarenteed seat (exSilverlink being an exception, no catering, but no seating problems) A better chance of a seat is a "good thing". But I don't want anyone to think they'll also get free coffee! Fair comment. On many lines it's a case of first class giving you a choice of trains, because the obvious ones are rammed in standard. Regards Jonathan |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:56:15 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: A better chance of a seat is a "good thing". But I don't want anyone to think they'll also get free coffee! But they would from London to Stafford, which is the thread subject! And a reasonable breakfast on the morning journey (if there's anything left by Stafford!) |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:53:25 -0800 (PST), Paul Weaver
wrote: But more likely to need the guarenteed seat (exSilverlink being an exception, no catering, but no seating problems) On the Desiros, the First Class seats are worse than the Standard ones... Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
Commuting from Stafford = London
In message , at 22:50:33 on
Sun, 2 Dec 2007, G remarked: A better chance of a seat is a "good thing". But I don't want anyone to think they'll also get free coffee! But they would from London to Stafford, which is the thread subject! Yes, but the thread had drifted somewhat to a discussion of First Class elsewhere. And a reasonable breakfast on the morning journey (if there's anything left by Stafford!) Is it free, or do you have to pay? -- Roland Perry |
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On 3 Dec, 06:26, (Neil Williams) wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:53:25 -0800 (PST), Paul Weaver wrote: But more likely to need the guarenteed seat (exSilverlink being an exception, no catering, but no seating problems) On the Desiros, the First Class seats are worse than the Standard ones... But (off-peak) the company is better |
Commuting from Stafford = London
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 07:09:13 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 22:50:33 on Sun, 2 Dec 2007, G remarked: A better chance of a seat is a "good thing". But I don't want anyone to think they'll also get free coffee! But they would from London to Stafford, which is the thread subject! Yes, but the thread had drifted somewhat to a discussion of First Class elsewhere. And a reasonable breakfast on the morning journey (if there's anything left by Stafford!) Is it free, or do you have to pay? It's complimentary in the Virgin Pendos first class. Quality & choice of food varies dependent on time of departure. Quality of service varies dependent on train crew (especially if they change over at Preston)... |
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