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Evening all,

Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291

I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
do with it!

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
Evening all,

Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291

I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
do with it!

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'

Is the treatment of New Cross/New Cross Gate correct?

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
Evening all,

Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291

I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
do with it!

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'

Is the treatment of New Cross/New Cross Gate correct?

Its correct for the replacement bus route, assuming you're wondering why two
branches aren't shown.

I think it's a step too far to show the future southern extension of the ELL
in that way though, surely there's a good chance people will give the
diagram a quick glance and interpret it as the line from NXG to East Croydon
is also being closed for LO conversion?

Paul S

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:00:24 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

Evening all,

Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

--
Peter Lawrence

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(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it written
on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it. Besides which,
once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink route could mean
trains to any number of destinations rather then the fairly simple route it
refers to at the moment.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:

(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it.
Besides which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink
route could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the
fairly simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Unless the plan is to rebrand (debrand?) things so that the new routes
won't be called Thameslink?

tom

--
Things fall apart - it's scientific

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:

(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it. Besides
which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink route
could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the fairly
simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Unless the plan is to rebrand (debrand?) things so that the new routes
won't be called Thameslink?


Crossrail 1 sounds good to me... g

Paul S

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291

I think it's a step too far to show the future southern extension of the
ELL in that way though, surely there's a good chance people will give
the diagram a quick glance and interpret it as the line from NXG to East
Croydon is also being closed for LO conversion?

When they did much the same thing to extend the Central and Northern lines
after the war, taking over existing routes, they were just drawn as dashed
lines, without any reference to them being extant railway lines:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...maps/1946.html

Although interestingly, entirely new bits of routes were shown
differently, as dotted lines. That clever Mr Beck!

tom

--
Things fall apart - it's scientific

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On 31 Dec 2007, 17:50, "Peter Lawrence"
wrote:
(OT) *A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail *route.

They seem to quite like their stickers. London Overground have been
busy pasting over even the most harmless Rail Alphabet sign with an
identical one in New Johnston, complete with the silly "Temporary
sign" note in the corner. They seem much less bothered about the
trains not exactly matching the picture in the brochure.

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008, Paul Scott wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:

(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it. Besides
which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink route
could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the fairly
simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Unless the plan is to rebrand (debrand?) things so that the new routes
won't be called Thameslink?

Crossrail 1 sounds good to me... g

Crossrail 0!

tom

--
Things fall apart - it's scientific