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On Jan 12, 6:02*pm, (Neil Williams)
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:33 -0000, "Lew 1"

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Only once or twice, not enough to really form an opinion. I hadn't thought
that the difference between County and Metro would have been so huge, though
it certainly looks like it was County that was getting the praise. (What was
the Abbey Flyer, County or Metro?)


County, as were the erstwhile London-Brum locals and the
London-Northampton commuter services that I use daily.

I find it strangely amusing that one set of passengers would have related
the brand "Silverlink" with the height of railway filth, whilst another set
saw Silverlink as the railway's Knight in Shining Armour. What difference
one word makes!


It is interesting - I personally have very positive views of the old
Silverlink County, but I agree the old Metro services were disgusting.


How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?
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On Jan 12, 6:02 pm, (Neil Williams)
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:33 -0000, "Lew 1"

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Only once or twice, not enough to really form an opinion. I hadn't
thought
that the difference between County and Metro would have been so huge,
though
it certainly looks like it was County that was getting the praise. (What
was
the Abbey Flyer, County or Metro?)


County, as were the erstwhile London-Brum locals and the
London-Northampton commuter services that I use daily.

I find it strangely amusing that one set of passengers would have related
the brand "Silverlink" with the height of railway filth, whilst another
set
saw Silverlink as the railway's Knight in Shining Armour. What difference
one word makes!


It is interesting - I personally have very positive views of the old
Silverlink County, but I agree the old Metro services were disgusting.



How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?


It is no longer the case - that's why two ex Silverlink Metro units are now
down in Bristol!

Paul


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On 12 Jan, 19:57, "Paul Scott" wrote:
How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? *I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?


Wikipedia says the St Albans branch normally had a 321, so the split
doesn't affect it.

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:34:45 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
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On 12 Jan, 19:57, "Paul Scott" wrote:
How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? =A0I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?


Wikipedia says the St Albans branch normally had a 321, so the split
doesn't affect it.


It had a 313 every time I ever used it (not often, I admit). Someone
I know who works for LM says it's usually a 321, though.

These days, 150s for the Marston Vale come from Brum.

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On 13 Jan, 03:54, (Neil Williams)
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:34:45 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant

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On 12 Jan, 19:57, "Paul Scott" wrote:
How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? =A0I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?


Wikipedia says the St Albans branch normally had a 321, so the split
doesn't affect it.


It had a 313 every time I ever used it (not often, I admit). *Someone
I know who works for LM says it's usually a 321, though.



I always thought they were 313s, but I have no systematic or recent
experience of the line. Under LM, maybe it's now always a 321.

It does occur to me that there ought to be a lot of spare 321s around,
because I can't see that there are that many new electric services
since the introduction of the 350s. Maybe it's been 321s since the
introduction of 350s, even under Silverlink?


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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:01:57 -0800 (PST), MIG
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It does occur to me that there ought to be a lot of spare 321s around,
because I can't see that there are that many new electric services
since the introduction of the 350s.


Most of them have ended up on Brum-area locals, not to mention the
increased service frequency in the peaks (and 12 car sets) on the
County routes. I don't think there's a lot spare except in the
evenings and on weekends, when it tends to be mainly 321s out and the
Desiros are sitting spare.

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MIG wrote:

How does the shared use of rolling stock work out? I assume that
Watford - St Albans shares stock with the NLL and Bedford - Bletchley
shares stock with the GOBLIN, or is that no longer the case?


I'm not sure about the new arrangement for the St Albans Flyer but the
Marston Vale line is now resourced by London Midland, as part of their
franchise. Class 150s from the West Midlands fleet are used.


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